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Secretary Rogers
11/3/71 9:05 a.m. P. 3
K: The strategy Clark MacGregor outlined to me was that we would rather
operate on a continuing resolution than on a foreign aid bill plus Cooper-Church,
R: If the P esident had did say "I would rather have no foreign assistance
bill and I would veto it if Cooper-Church were attached, then I am prepared to
say that. I don't think he would have said that. I'll take a look at what
Scott said, and see how he feels. I don't want to pull the rug out from under
him and I don't want to embarrass you. I don't want to make the Hill mad either
because we may have trouble getting a continuing resolution. I'll check on it.
11/3/71 9:25 a.m.
R: I talked to Hugh Scott and he was pretty categorical. I think the only
position we can take is to say "yes, Scott expressed the view of the Administra-
tion; the president felt a veto would be employed to defeat Cooper-Church. He
also feels foreign assistance bill is of fundamental importance to our foreign
policy, and in the unlikely event that he felt he had to veto it he felt the
Senate would act responsible in passing a bill without it,
K: That's okay. They loaded this with unacceptable amendments and they
can't just offer us an unacceptable bill or no bill.
R: If Scott had been a little bit more responsible and just said "I
Beel sure? but I think this is the only way to do it since he spoke out in the
debate. Fulbright is trying to get a bill out of the committee quickly so he
can get his way in the Russia negotiations, It seems to me we have to argue
against it, try to slow it down. Because they are going to have a continuing
resolution of some kind. All hell will break loose if we have to fight these
people, and the whole damn world community would be up in arms.
K: It seems to me work make a fight of this foreign aid thing. There is
a lot of sanctimonious XENNIX being put out. After all, we've voted on Cooper-
Church four or five times. It wasn't there for the first time, and we have
always opposed it.
R: Ithink we can make a fight. It's going to be a painful fight. You
can't get anyone to line up. They are all against us for sarious reasons
K:
I know.
R:
Okay Henry.
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