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The President
11/19/71 6:00 p. .m.
P: Did your pretty little secretary tell you that I said it's the first time
I've ever seen Dr. Kissinger give you some time off.
K: No.
P: I told her to tell you that.
K: I understand it was a tremendous success.
P: Well it wasn't exactly that. But I think it was an asset. I praised them
on their defense of our Cambodia and Vietnam policy and then took off after them.
K: I think in terms of Presidential leadership it was a plus.
P: It may have some good effects, but it had to be done. You can't let
or any special interest group get away with this.
K: And the people like to see their President stand up for principles, and
I wouldn't be surprised if labor felt that way too.
P: A lot of them do. A lot of them don't like this old man, and they don't
like having him calling the head of the price board a dolt and the Secretary of
Labor a ribbon clerk. So I took him on on China and X Russia. I said a lot of
these are looked on as election-year junkets. I said these trips are not about
the next election; they are about the next generation.
K: Good.
P: It's an old line.
K: But it's true.
P: I said we have got our differences. But we are not going to achieve
anything by fighting about them.
K: I think that is very strong.
P: I'm still of the same view but you can't.
K: No, you can't now. Pompidou has accepted for the 13th and 14th.
P: And Rogers is pleased?
K: Oh yes. He thinks it's great. I gave him the picture and sent Haig
over to go over details.