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TELECON
Mr. Kissinger/Mr. Peterson
9:20 a. m., November 24, 1971
P:
Could I see you for a few minutes?
K:
It's impossible, but I will try this morning. They have me
training for a dentist with half-hour appointments. If I learn the
skills, I will know how to keep them. I think the President was
very anxious for me to tell you that he doesn't want you to take a
trip right now at all. I think your colleague is one of the people
who is unhappy with it. He said later on and you would understand
it -- it would be a much better context in which to do it.
P:
We have set up a lot of dates; I wonder what my reasoning
should be.
K:
There is this G-10 meeting and everything is coinciding.
P:
I saw Connally about this. He asked me to talk to you. I
would like to find out.
K:
I'm leaving at 3:00 [gave his appointments until then]. Maybe
between my 10:30 and 12:15 appointments. Let me call you when I
am through.
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Shultz/Kissinger
12:12 p.m.
11/24/71
S: We had a discussion of budget items this morning. We used 78.5. We will
come back to that this afternoon with you.
K: 1 hat's all right.
S: I wanted you to know. If the President decides to go that way with out
management I think the communication process for Laird is
a meeting followed by a memo. That from John Court that increases
are joint memo.
1
K:
hat's all right. I terned Peterson off.
&
S: Was he in tears?
K: Well--
S: How did it get started?
K: I have no idea.
S: OK.
K: No idea.
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Kurt Bireenbach/Kissinger
1:13 p.m.
11/24/71
K: On Bartzel. If he makes a request we will approve it but not released to the
newspapers.
B: Should he make a formal request through youx or the embassy?
K: The embassy.
B: Janauary?
K: Yes. Latter half of January.
B: Very well and I will see him on Friday at 9:00.
K: Give me some advance notice when he makes the request.
B: Shall I call you XXX or Hal Sonnenfelct?
K: Me.
B: Do you differentiate in your country between the Moscow Treaty and the
Warsaw Treaty?
K: More sympathetick to the Warsaw Treaty.
B: This is what I understood. I am most grateful to you. In Rochester every-
thing was fine for me.
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TELCON
Rogers/Kissinger
2:45 p.m. 11/24/71
K: I am returning your call.
R: Can't be the most important thing in the world [couldn't remember what
he had called about]. On this memo I was going to get to you by 5:00, I will
be delayed. I will give to Al and he can send it to you. I have just talked
with Indian and Pakistani. I read it on the Indian. Xx He says it's a lie, a
story completely opposite from the Pakistanis. I said it's not understandable
why they won't allow observers to go in. I reminded him of the conversation
with the PM and he said the PM doesn't want it. So I said disengage. Yayga
will do it. I said work it out on the ground. I reminded him of ? ? ? ?.
Keating is agonizing. What the hell was it -- I thought the meeting this morning
was good. Oh, I know. The Pakistani asked me about Marvin Kalb's story
that we are considering Security Council Action. We have just talked with
the President. Said it's a matter for Pakistan to decide. He said they are
considering it. He hasn't hearf from his government. They are considering it.
K: It's good to know.
R: Beam saw Kuznetsov.
K: He is not the most forceful ambassador we have. One thing I have
asked you -- stories in last week's XX papers coming from State. Memo requirir
clearances on committee ? ? ? ? ? ?. We sent it out because of ACDA.
R: What stories?
K: That State demoralized over WH control. Feel that they had something about
you asking not to complain. On India/Pakistan I don't think we should have
any disagreements because theyx there are none.
R: I saw that seking story but didn't mention that.
K: Not on the front page.
R: I was annoyed at the lead but the story was good.
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Mr. Kissinger/Ambassador Ushiba
3:22 p.m., November 24, 1971
K:
Mr. Ambassador, how are you; would you be able to come
by to see me at 4:15?
U:
I will be there.
K:
Can we keep this visit between ourselves -- really between
ourselves?
U:
I will come alone.
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R. Zeigler/Kissinger
3:30 p.m.
11/24/71
K: Statements that the State Dept. making contrary to our policy. Can you
control what State is saying?
Z: I can try. What areas?
K: State says no eveidence of Indian participation.
Z: Xxxx When?
K: Two days ago. Let them -- why don't we establish a line in the morning and
you send it to them and tell them not to deviate from this line.
Z: Fine. I will call you every morning.
K: Tell Bray that the President has ordered because of the delicacy of the
situation that you are doing this and not to deviate.
Z: Sure.
K: This afternoon.
Z: OK.
Further call
K:
in for an hour to discuss India/Pakistan situation.
Z: Jesus!
K: Could you do it?
I
Z: I said xe referred to it as a routine xxxxxxx meeting.
K: Just say India/Pakistan situation.
Z: Any particular point? Any concern?
K: We are watching it with concern.
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Robert Kleiman
11/24/71 4:20 p.m.
RK: I'm delighted you are going to the Azores -- I think it's great.
K: Good.
RK: I want to come to Washington; I can be there on the first
or from the 15th to the 17th.
K: 15 - 17 is much better for me.
RK: Okay then I'll plan on that and be in touch with your office.
Can you give me some guidance on this? Is it to wrap up the monetary thing?
K: It's to talk about what the announcement says. Before we go
into meetings with Peking and Moscow we want to talk with our allies.
We will also discuss monetary things, but that is not the point.
RK: Isn't it a little early for preparing for Peking and Moscow?
K: Yes, but that is only the basic cause; there may be others.
RK: Good, will you
some of the others too?
K: Eventually, yes.
RK: Before you go?
K: Yes.
RK: And Peking is when, January or February?
K: We will be announcing it soon.
RK: What is your outlook on the financial, monetary thing? Do
you think the series of meetings offers a chance of cleaning up the this mess?
K: I think you can think we are moving in a positive direction
within the month or so. We are talking the record.
RK: No, for deepest background.
K: The time seems to be ripe for deep discussions.
RK: I presume we are prepared to devalue the dollar
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Robert Kleiman
11/24/71 4:20 p.m. p, 2
K: I don't want to go into any of that.
RK: What do you think Pompidou's main problem is now?
K: We are just at the beginning of that exploration, but our
impression is he'll be
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Mrs. Schlosser/Kissinger
11/26/71
Mrs. Schbsser proposed at 7:30 dinner Monday, Nov. 29. HAK suggested
8:00 was better. Mrs. S. indicated very informal and conversational. At
her home, 713 N. Bedford Dr., Beverley Hills 2 blokks from BH Hotel.
She asked if the Secret Service would be checking it out and HAK indicated
they would probably drive by. He also asked that she have something available
to feed them that evening. Mrs. S. Said it was fine if HAK wanted to bring
a date - - either way was fine but if he did bring someone she would like to
know in advance. HAK said he would let her know Sat.
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Mr. Kissinger/
Otis Chandler
K:
Otis, how are you?
C:
Welcome to foggy California. I was interested to read about your
son. I can just about imagine what happened.
K:
I can tell you he is so mad at the Los Angees Times. He thinks if
I had kept my big mouth shut it would have blown over.
C:
What I called you about is on December 6th, Monday, we are having
a ceremony for the Time Women of the Year in which we usually
honor ten to twenty women of the year. I would very much like to
have you talk at the ceremony for about 15 minutes. The 500 women
invited are the best in their fields such as authors, movie actresses,
etc. and was wondering if you could come out here and do it.
K:
Could I check my calendar first. I would like to try and do it.
C:
It would be in the afternoon about 1:30 for a couple of hours.
K:
We have the Brazilian President coming on the 7th. Let me check
with my calendar. It wouldn't have to be on foreign policy would it.
I could talk about Maxine Cheshire and why she should be dropped from
the Times. Let me see, but I am not too optimistic about it.
C:
Well, if you are free. If you could come out and you might even
have dinner with us.
K:
No, I couldn't do that, I would have to return to Washington right away.
C:
Well check your calendar and let me know.
K:
I will do that and call you back. You know I always try to do my best
when you ask me to do something.
C:
Yes, I know and it would be very stimulating. The women are tops
in their fields.
K:
How long a talk?
C:
About 15 to 20 minutes.
K:
Let me see how it would work out.
C:
Good, getting some rest?
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K:
Yes, some rest.
are
C:
When/you going back?
K:
Probably Tuesday or Wednesday. Let me call you, OK.
C:
Yes, fine.
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Vorontxov/Kissinger
9:50 a. m.
11/26/71
V: I hope it's nice weather.
K: It's not. It's the first time that it isn't.
you V: Too bad. My question is since it's not convenient to talk over the phone when
xixwill be back.
K: Wed.
V:
I hope --
K: You could do if you want to talk before then , you can come to my office
and talk there.
V: It will wait until Wed. It concerns some idea about Jan. If you recall your
last talk with Anatoly. It's fine and OK.
K: Heunderstood that this may not be possible for me. I said this is the earliest.
V: They say January is fine. Since it was mentioned. Some details and we
can talk about some further ideas on Wed.
K: Certainly. No need for you to call me.
V: Details better to talk about in person.
K: While you are on the phone, will you convey to your people our great concern
about the situation on the subcontinent and certainly noted favorable here if the
Soviets were to relieve efforts. We get reports from people there talking
on another level.
V: Probably some kind of ? ? ? telephone.
K: We will get togehter. When does the Ambassacor come back?
V: Sometime before the new year or just after.
K: I hope he gets a good rest. Give him my warm regards.
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Mrs. Cramer/Kissinger
10:08 a. m.
11/26/71
K: What is your opinion on the Women of the Year thing? Otis called me.
C: No. It's for his mother. I am sponsoring Ali McGraw. There are
12 awards. The L.A. Times will cover it well.
K: I don't need coverage. (Told story that David Kissinger mad at him because
of story on him in morning paper.)
C: £ Monday's paper will say something about David. Quote regarding how to
top David and you said either the President will have to announce he is not
going to Peking or put David up beside him.
K: I would have to fly out and fly right back.
C: Mrs. Chandler would be delighted and looking ahead to '72 it's good.
K: What does the speaker do?
C:
told marvelous stroies. Anecdotes on show business.
You can speak on anything.
K: another year out here and I will be able to do anecddes of show business.
C. You can do them of Washington. If you do it I will be there. Gather before
for champagne and the thing last ah hour.
K: Very unlikely I can do it. Soxxx From a personal point of view I don't need
the publicity. From the Administration point of view I think it would be
clever. I will put it to Haldeman and the President.
C: It would help the editorial position in '72. Any length speech on any subject.
You can leave after it's over.
K: I can do it timewise. It's murderous. But I could go out in tbe morning
and have lunch and be back by midnight. He said it would be over by 3:30.
C: Starts at 2:00. I guess he asked you to lunch, otherwise you could have
lunch with Veronique Peck and me.
K: I was discouraging but he was so eager.
C: Veronique and I will have lunch at
and then go down. The ladies are
mrs. Chandler's 400. Most influential group in L.A.
K: All those ladies will be Democrats in '72.
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10:08 a. m.
11/26/71
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C: Maybe Veronique but I am not sure how I will come up. The only reason
would be you.
K: 20 minute speech?
C: I am sure you could make it shorter or longer. I make a 2 minute speech
for Ali. She will probably be last.
K: Acrtress of the year?
C: Woman in entertainment and movies. Bob Hope's Delores also getting it.
You can stay for Schlossers.
K: That's the week after.
C: Oh, so you will have to fly out for it. Fly out with me on Sunday.
K: I can't do it. I have friends in Washington that weekend. The time change
works in favor of it. I could leave at 8:30 and just make it and come back that
day. I have to be there on the 7th because there's a Brazilian State visit. Latin
Americans are so touchy and if I am not there they will claim neglect. They
bore me to distraction. I will put it to Haldeman.
C: It can only help the Administration.
K: I may see you Monday night.
C: You will and if you come for this we will have lunch maybe.
K: I will be there in time. Only a two hour -- if I left at 9:00 a.m. I would be
there at 11:30 a.m. But I doubt I will do it. I am going to Palm Springs after
my children leave on Suaday.
C: Going to Wallaces on Sunday night?
K: Yes.
C: Martha told me. Martha Hyer and xx charming and Hal is the top Γpxxx
producer. Live right across from Frank's. You saw us there.
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TelCon:10:42-Nov. 26, 1971
Mr. Kissinger/
The President
K:
Mr. President.
P:
Henry anything going on today?
K:
We made the announcement on the British and it has gone well.
P:
You did it their time I hope.
K:
9 o'clock.
P:
It suited them alright.
K:
Yes.
P:
They were going to do it in Parliament?
K:
No, it would have tied them up. The Japanese have come back and
we are going to do it at 3 o'clock tomorrow afternoon.
P:
Good, it is better for us.
K:
So everything seems to be working out alright.
P:
I noticed with interest the Pakistanis claim they are doing pretty well
and I would like the Indians to be embarrassed.
K:
The Indians have pulled off on this one but they are going to have
to come back
Keating finally delivered the message and
they are all over him. What we should do with the arms is wait
until they make another military move.
P:
Pakistan provocation
I saw that they admitted it they were in
there
K:
Oh yes, they admitted it. The New York Times wrote a scorcher
Against India.
P:
Did you talk to the Times and tell them that was the case.
K:
Yes I talked to
(?) I said if anyone is to blame for the war
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P:
Well and the thing is novel - it is the point I have been making
and I hope you pushed it on Pakistan that we cut off their aid
because of their internal conduct not for their external conduct.
So we cut off aid and India busts into Pakistan and that is worse.
Was it a strong editorial?
K:
Oh yes, Mrs. Gandhi has betrayed her father.
P:
Of course her father was just as bad as she is. What she said was
so unconscionable and the Pakistanis were so prefabricated. On the
Pakistan thing you feel no action on the arms thing should be taken.
K:
I think as soon as military action starts again we should cut off aid.
P:
I still want Connally, State and Hannah to say nothing is being moved
into the economic aid pipeline into India. Are they riding herd
on this They will get the message.
K:
Oh no question. We are just not saying anything. We are not signing
the PL 480 and we won't say what the reason is for. The Chinese -
I told them you can't just say you are against the Indians and you
better tell the Pakistanis what you are going to do. Do it independently
and show them the resolution you are putting forth.
We are going
pretty far in condemning India.
You talked with Heath.
P:
Did they put it out.
K:
Yes, and I think you should call Brandt tomorrow.
P:
Yes, OK and the British is playing well today?
K:
Yes, I haven't seen it but Ziegler said yes.
P:
Are you going to follow up with Newsweek and the Times?
K:
Yes, I have calls in for them.
P:
But don't W say anything on the China thing. W Should we have a
backgrounder?
K:
Ron thinks it would be a overkill that the press is very happy. I
don't want to scoop anything you will be saying on Tuesday SO I
think it would be better to let it drop. Let them speculate on Monday
and then you do it all on Tuesday. On Monday we will announce the
trip and say you will have a press conference on Tuesday.
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P:
Yes, and give no details whatsoever and they will speculate on
Monday.
K:
A week from today would be a good timefor a backgrounder and
if anything requires tightening up we should do it next week - like
next Friday - see how the press plays it.
P:
Yes, I agree very good.
K:
The French press over this is absolutely spectaular. This is the
best play we have had in France. This is really excellent press play.
The time couldn't have been better chosen. (Dr. K reads some of
the French press play to the President).
P:
You know that is one thing maybe Ziegler could do - he should try
to get the foreign reaction in our own papers here. Do it very low
key. I'll tell you why these are bette r meetings. These are far
more significant because they are totally substantive and no protocol,
no dinner, etc. no Embassy receptions. Normally these kinds of
visits are more than overtaken by crap. This is the kind of meeting
we should have - strictly substantive.
K:
In this atmosphere we can't help but settle something.
P:
This is very important and the British will get a lot of special
attention. The British know we tell them things that we don't tell
anyone else. Like this India/Pakistani thing. How has the reaction
been in the world on the British/Rhodesia thing?
K:
We have no reaction yet at all.
P:
We don't oppose this we support it. We have got to help Britian
bring out the chaos in that part of the world. Should I put out a
note.
K:
No if you name is on a paper it will leak.
and tell
P:
OK tell / / / / Bush that we frankly support the British
on this thing and also tell Newsome and the UN should know.
know,
K:
Well if they don't/they should. I have convyed this to them.
P:
Well we are going to have one hell of a busy month. The State people
know the Chinese thing will be announced?
K:
Yes
Brandt and Pompidou about the Chinese thing. They won't
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P:
Of course one of the main things and I want you to emphasize
this will be consultation when it counts. Both of these trips are
without preconditions
How about the Connally thing
and the Pope?
K:
That is all done.
P:
I would do it very low key.
K:
That is the way we are doing it.
P:
Make sure it isn't set up that it looks political. Secretary Connally
is just reporting on his trip x to Asia as well as the monetary thing.
Do the Italy thing in the morning and the Vatican thing in the afternoon
K:
Yes, that is right.
P:
Good.
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Mrs. Javits/Kissinger
11:11 a. m.
11/26/71
J: Jack, because he's on the other side of that other Senator, and in NY we
thought we would put together a dinner for the new Ambassador from Peking. We
thought it would be xxxxx at home for a small dinner and reception. This was
before we heard Peking threatened to send troops into Egypt.
K: I don't believe that.
J: No further word on it. Make it in your honor if you agree.
K: Certainly. Anything you two decide I am almost automatically for.
J: You are too much. We have decided.
K: How will you put the invitation to the Chinese?
J: Extend an personal invitation from the Senator and myself to our home to
meet our friends and greeting them in an informal way.
K: As much as I would love to be invited by you I think there's a 40-60 chance
they will come. Less chance they will come if it's in my honor. I think so.
I think they like me but will want to avoid a situation of having colluded with us.
J: Do you think this is valid? I thought it would soften the situation.
K: If you give a dinner, have the dinner small.
J: That's what we thought. We could keep it to 12.
K: If you want to give in my honor, I am delighted, but major thing is how to
get the Chinese.
J: Directly. Unless I have to go through protocol. I should probably go through
Bush but we don't want to get involved.
K: You are knownfor the frontal approach. Extend the invitation but don't way I a
on the invitation. They want to be on parallel courses with us but I don't want thei
to think it's rigged.
J: Can it be cooperative? Want to contribute and not a social thing.
K: I think it's interesting to see what happens.
if
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11:11 a. m.
11/26/71
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J: A personal welcome to our home to meet our friends. If we don't say it's
in your honor and you come, it won't matter. Other then that if they accept I
could indicat who would be available.
K: You can tell them who who are inviting. In fact, I would.
J: Any significance?
K: They might find it tough to go to a dinner in my honor and then the Russians
hear of it and say here are these guys running with American imperialists. Whereas
if it is a dinner for your friends and I ama friend nothing can be done. You can
later say it's in my honor or not.
J: I thought a dinner and reception is 20-40. Any suggestions?
K: Nelson would be good.
J: I thought so. That will be 8. Two more of their people.
alone.
K:
won't comexadoxigx Invite him, his deputy, and can bring an interprete:
J: Could make dinner up to 20. Can hold 12 and 8 at two round tables. Any other
thoughts on it -- I will do what you are saying which is my instinct. Jack said to
talk with you. If he says yesk, I will call you and make arrangements with you.
K: I don't dare say no to you.
J: Come to NY and we can giggle.
K: You promixed to have lunch with me in Washington.
J: When will you be back?
K: Dec. 1.
J: Can you come on the 13th?
K: In the Azores.
J: What about sooner? Next Sat. ? I could put it together quickly. Or the 8th?
K: The 8th I could do it.
J: All right.
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K: I like a girl with confidence. Any girl who can deliver the delegation from Peking
in 7 days is quite a
. If you had my job, you would have made getting to
Peking look effortless.
J: I would try to match it but not do better. I can't go see them. Shall I send a letter?
K: Xx " As the senior Republican Senator from NY, I would like to ixrxfxx invite some
friends to our home and introduce you. #
J: What other dates?
K: 10th. After that it's bad. After that I could do it on the 22nd.
J: You concede that 20-30 after for the reception.
K: They will be more receptive to a smaller group.
J: 12-20 for dinner.
K: Think twice about the reception. Ask their opinion.
J: Shall I go and see anyone there?
K: Write them a letter. Have a dinner and invite some friends. We are willing to
have reception with more friends but up to you.
J: 7th also possible?
K: No. We have a State dinner.
J: I will get in touch with them and call you later.
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TelCon:11:35-Nov. 26, 1971
Mr. Kissinger/
Hugh Sidey
K:
What do you do - hide under your desk when I call your office. I
hope your office gave you my message.
S:
They told me to call you back.
K:
I called you about the following - in order to be kind to Times.
And this is all on an off the record basis. We have announced
today a visit with Heath and we have announced one with Prompidou.
Now strictly for your information we are going to announce a
meeting with Sato tomorrow and Brandt on Sunday. Now if you
could handle your people out here and if they could be discreet
about it I will ask Ziegler to give them the exact dates and places.
S:
I think you should give it to them tomorrow - not today - but
Saturday afternoon. The Sund paper would have gone to the
press and the interest is down. What time tomorrow?
K:
3 o'clock tomorrow.
S:
Now that is tough because it is six o'clock here.
K:
Well let me talk to Ron about this because the press will be moving
with the President - he is going to Palm Springs tomorrow.
S:
I will handle it out here. To make it effective it should be in New
York at one or two o'clock - about nine o'clock your time.
K:
Couldn't Ron call them at 8 o'clock in the morning.
S:
When does the President go to Palm Springs?
K:
I don't have the schedule here.
9 o'clock.
S:
That would be fine with us and we should be secure.
K:
My preference is to do it with you alone but I don't want to hurt
Jerry's feelings.
S:
Well don't worry about that. I will take care of it.
K:
And also I want to get Ron in the act.
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S:
If I could get a firm
on it tomorrow morning.
K:
I will tell Ron to call your people in the morning and get it to you.
I will tell him I have already talked to you and to give it to no one
else but you. Is that alright with you.
S:
That will be fine.
K:
And I will call you to make sure you got it.
S:
You will be busy from now on.
K:
We are making obviously the Chinese announcement next week and
we want to emphasize that our allies come first.
S:
Yes, that is first rate and I appreciate it very much. It makes it
look like we know what we are doing.
K:
Yes, and I will give it to Elfin. I can't give it to you exclusively
and you both can report fairly on it.
S:
Yes, that will be fine. How is everything going out there? There is
not going to be a picture of Judy Brown in it.
K:
As long as Judy Brown is out of it and it doesn't make me look
like a playboy I don't care.
S:
Yes, that has already been taken care of.
K:
That is fine.
S:
I will keep an eye on it to see how it is going along.
K:
I will be glad to get it over with. Well, I will call you tomorrow
morning to make sure everything is on track and I will ask Ron to
call Jerry Schecter in the morning.
S:
Fine.
K:
How was your Thanksgiving? I have my kids out here.
S:
Good. Well as you said you have Bermuda and the Azores ahead of yo
K:
Well I will call you in the morning. Where will you be.
S:
Either at home or here in the office. I think your office has both
numbers.
K:
Good.
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TelCon:11: 55, November 26, 1971
Mr. Kissinger/Ron Ziegler
K:
Look, I talked to both Hugh Sidey and Mel Elfin. You have seen
the announcements. I told them I wanted to tell them off the re-
cord about two other announcements. Ron feels that he is
prepared to give the details to your people out here. What is
interesting is that they wanted their people to be told tomorrow
and not today.
Z:
Fine.
K:
Hubbard is not out there,he is on vacation but Phil Cook is there.
Z:
Yes, Cook that is right.
K:
You can tell them the dates and the places tomorrow. I have
already told them (Sidey and Elfin) the announcements will be made.
They would like it first thing in the morning because they close at
6 o'clock. Did I handle it alright?
Z:
You did very well. Did David really get upset.
K:
Look, you kept him out of it. He is so mad at me. He said if
I had kept my mouth shut it would have all blown over.
Z:
How will he ever be able tc face his classmates again. But worse
of all, how will he ever be able to face the press again.
K:
Ron - I have a call from the President. I will have to cut off.
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Mr. Kissinger/
The President
K:
Mr. President.
P:
Since Scali is out here it might be useful if you could give him
some of the background stuff. Why the consultations are
important and really substantive meetings and not just protocol
meetings.
K:
Good.
P:
It is awfully hard to nitpick this.
K:
I just talked to Hugh Sidey. He thinks it is just terrific. It has
got the touch and falling into place now.
P:
You filled him in on all four meetings.
K:
Yes. I didn't give him the times and places, just that they are
going to take place. I also talked to Elfin.
P:
Good.
K:
Ron will call their people here in the morning.
P:
Good, but I think we should tell Scali a little.
K:
I gave him some of the details yesterday on India and Pakistan.
P:
Good, so you can give him a little fill in on this line.
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TelCon:12:20-Nov. 26, 1971
Mr. Kissinger/
Mr. Head in Prime Minister Trudeau's Office
K:
Hello.
H:
Dr. Kissinger. This is Iving(?) Head speaking in Prime Minister
Trudeau's office. I meddle around on foreign policy for Prime
Minister Trudeau. He wanted to express to you an increasing
feeling that in his words are growing - feelings of anti-American.
With two opposition parties who have long had a nationalistic feel
in their platforms and the conservative party
The govern-
ment's response in Canada so far has been an intellectual(?)
reply.
K:
What is the basis for the anti-American?
H:
It is difficult to say. Some is the papers. They are saying the
U.S. has forgotten about Canada Its attitude is directed more
to get raw materials from us without consultations
bitting
towards the Americans. There must be much more important
problems facing the U.S. and the economic problem with which
we
The reason I called today is because we have been
under attack by the House of Commons because of either reluctance
on the Prime Minister's part or the President Nixon's part to
communicate with each other when it is essential to do so. We
have learned about the upcoming meeting with the Western
leaders. The Conservative Party is holding a convention here in
the next few days.
K:
What should we do?
H:
If we could get our two heads together in a short while. But that is
up to President Nixon's timetable.
K:
You and I ought to be able to work together.
H:
Well certainly from our political interest here - it is wrong for
the U.S. not to have the old image they had.
K:
On the telephone or what.
H:
Well, they have talked on the phone before. If they could meet
it would be much better
trade chafter we are not including(?)
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K:
I understand. You appreciate of course that I am not in a position
to make any commitment on this.
H:
Yes.
K:
Obviously we are close allies and we should maintain that relation-
ship. The question is would the Prime Minister be prepared to
come to Washington?
H:
Of course. I can say this categorically.
K:
Let me think out loud. One could arrange a two hour session in the
President's office and then maybe a small informal dinner at night.
H:
Fine.
K:
X Let me get on that.
H:
Good.
K:
May I get back to you on Monday?
H:
Yes.
K:
Well first of all you tell the Prime Minister I am an admirer of his
and second, this government wants to maintain a close relationship
with Canada
the communication with us about Kosygin's
visit was very fair and proper the way you handled it. I would tell
you if something is wrong. I think I could give you a feel of some
tangibles. Let me see what I can do and see if I can arrange a
visit by the Prime Minister.
H:
Good. That would be very good here.
K:
After we have a date we could announce it very quickly. Let me
see what I can do by Monday or Tuesday. Certainly sometime
next week.
H:
Good. I want to assure you domestically and politically here to
K:
M&XXXX It doesn't make any sense for us to visit Peking and Moscow
if we can't have a decent relationship with our cloest ally. We will
do our best on our side.
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H:
I am very grateful to you and sorry to burst in on you.
K:
No indeed. That is very good and I will get in touch with you on
Monday or Tuesday.
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TELCON
Jerry Schecter/Kissinger
12:35 p.m.
11/26/71
S: You are ruinning your son's credibility.
K: He took the caption in the L.A. Times ill. If I kept my mouth shut he could
have ridden this out.
S: Did you run it?
K: He thinks I put the WH up to disavowing him.
S: I think we should make light of it.
K: I would if I were you.
S: I will do a nice thing about it.
K: Do make light of it.
S: I would appreciate -- Grunwald talked to you about Man of the Year cover.
K: Don't expect me to cooperate on something I am not part of.
S: We wiklx are saving you for next year.
K: Do you know there's no bar to foreign born becoming Vice President?
Don't go with it. I am still debating it. But I see a great ground swell for it.
What about the Man of the Year?
S: Could you and I sit down for an hour and talk about the overview?
K: When?
S: At your convenience. I thought it might be easier out here.
K: I am talking about a day of sunshine in Palm Springs on Monday.
S: I could come down there.
K: Can I call you tomorrow or Monday? Or Tues, we could do it. It's not
urgent.
S: It is in that the deadline for me is early.
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K; We will do it Monday or Tues.
S: Great. I appreciate how busy you are but for some thing like this --
K: We should do it leisurely.
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TELCON"
Haldeman/Kissinger
2:00 p.m.
11/26/71
K: The President would like David to get an appointment on the press staff
because he has gotten k more publicity for himself then you can.
H: I agree. But I could get on the front page by announcing the &hanxx China
date too. I hope no one is upset about that. It's funny.
K: Particularly on Monday it will be
H: Shows how stupid the press is.
K: We keep saying don't go with it. But they do. The stock market went
up 17 points.
H: On David's announcement?
K: I bet. Trudean called and wants a meeting. I mentioned it to the President
and he is for it.
H: When.
K: The sooner the better.
H: Up there?
K: He will come down for an office appointment. Two hour meeting and the
President wants to add a dinner. I looked at the schedule. The 6th?
H: It's dangerous when you look at the schedule.
K: The one Bull has. The President would like to do it the week of the 6th.
In practice it will have to be on the 6th or the x9x 10th.
H: 6th of Dec. ?
K: I know what you are doing that day.
H: It would be great. Trudeau let us get some film?
K: Probably 5 mins. at the beginning.
H: More?
K: Why? Don't you think 5? or 10?
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H: Only problem doing it that day is that we are committed to NBC for $isislsn
film coverage of the President's activities.
K: Give me a later date. He won't take it.
H: It will be hard. He is planning to go to Florida from the Azores.
K: Do I have to go?
H: No. Domestic types down and work on budget.
K: That's good. I think I should go to Florida on the weekend and ride
up with him.
H: You should go back to Washington and we will ride down some domestic
types and you come on the weekend. And ride over to Bermuda with him.
Then he is thinking of going back to Florida but I don't think so.
K: Unwise.
H: I think he will go to Washington through Christmas and back through the
29th. Then you can say the 23rd.
K: We will announce the Trudeau on Wed. Japan going tomorrow.
H: Heath today?
K: Yes. Going very well.
H: Japs tomorrow. Germans Sunday?
K: Yes.
H: Good. Chinese on Monday. Nothing on Tuesday.
K: Press conference.
H: We had better plan a trip -- where can we go to announce on Tues. ?
K: You don't think a press conference is enough? I will give a 0 backgrounders
and we will have morning and an afternoon. Wed., Canada. We have to have
two hours -- 3:00 - 5:00.
H: That's a big chunk out of that day.
K: Will, an hour and a half.
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H; And dinner?
K: t hat's what the President wants.
H: It screws up the TV thing.
K: Won't it help for meeting on TV?
H: A little. Wouldn't be bad. We can have enough other stuff. What's
he have in mind? Working dinner?
K: Yeah.
H: That wouldn't be bad. Adifferent dinner on TV. If that's goo, let's go.
It has both pluses and minuses. It takes a chunk of time.
K: 4:00 - 5:30.
H: Offer him that. WhatxOught to keep the 10th clear. Doesn't he need time
to get ready for Pompidou?
K: I would prefer if he did.
H: Give him the 6th or 23rd.
K: OK.
H: See what you get. How are things there?
K: Cold and miserable. How are they in Palm Springs?
H: Quite nice.
K: I am coming over on Sunday.
H: Good.
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TelCon:2:00-11/26/71
Mr. Kissinger/
Mr. Head in PM Trudeau's Office
K:
Look, I have talked to the President about this and in principle he
thinks it is a good idea and what we would do is have the Prime
Minister in Washington for an afternoon appointment and perhaps
a small dinner afterwards. Here is a small problem I have run
into. I have to get to the schedule people and with the various
meetings announced, one possible date is December 6th. That
would be a week from Monday.
H:
Yes, right.
K:
That has one technical disadvantage. The President had agreed to
have a television network follow him around and watch his activities.
(One of the meetings then would have to go until around the 20th?)
H:
I am sure the earlier date would be better because Mrs. Trudeau
is expecting their first child around Christmas. The exact date
is Christmas day. I am sure that as the date approaches he would
be very reluctant to leave her.
K:
It would have to be the 22 or 21st actually (British or Berlin?). But
tell the Prime Minister the President agrees in principle. If you
could hold off we would let you know on Monday or Tuesday. You
don't need a lot of time do you, if we could do it the 6th?
H:
No, the 6th would be fine. There is nothing on his calendar that
couldn't be changed if it had to.
K:
Well let's keep the 6th.
H:
That is very kind of you and I appreciate it.
K:
Kindness is not a trait of mine. It is in our mutual interest.
H:
Fine, I understand.
K:
Well we will have it in December and I will call you on Monday.
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Arthur Burns/Kissinger
2:15 p.m.
11/26/71
K: I am returning your call.
B: I wanted to check with you a couple of things. Have you seen the CIA
report on the new economic policy and foreign reaction to it?
K: No.
B: It came out a few days ago. I wanted to be sure you saw it and read it and
brief the President on it.
K: I will get it.
B: It's a very effective docement and texx deals with the international monetary
problem.
K: I am XX in the problem. I have 6 me to the ??????. Your professor
is the problem.
B: He works in Labor and knows nothing about finance and to go into this is
shocking.
K: I basically agree with you. I think he was a little helpful the other day.
At that point on 2-3 other occasions and everytime we get Connally at the
point, Shultz comes in and then Connallys' competitive instincts come into it.
B: I was only recently aware of it. I didn't know Shultz was in it.
K: I didn't either.
B: I think we have progress.
K: I do too.
who is no. 2 in
B: I had another call from ther Germans today. Henninger/XXXXXXXXXX
He talked about the whole business. They are heading into a recession and
central bank has to lower interests rates so as not to have too much unem-
ployment. When they do that the biggest companies ? ? ? ? ? ? ? will
repay their dollar loan. Then the dollar is up and the Mark will be down.
They have to do this. Can't hold off more than 2-3 weeks. After that the
Germans Mark which is down to 104, it will be difficult for them to reach
a percentage of
which they are willing to do.
K: The Germans will do it lower 6%. I don't know economics but I know
politics of it. I have talked with a lot of people and these are realities. George'
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view that it can stay at 10 is nuts.
B: The problem there is -- I have talked with George and he doesn't under-
stand the seriousness of it.
K: I can't associate with you at these meetings but I agree with you.
B: It me ans a lot to me and the country.
K: I will solve it in January and it will be close to your proposal. I don't
know if I can sell the convertibility part. I think it will sell itself.
B: When is the Sato meeting set?
K: Early January.
B: That's good. After that we should meet with the Group of 10 and sew it
up.
K: A week or two afterwards. Aim for the 20th.
B: OK. Good. When I get back I want to see you.
K: I want to see you. And don't think you haven't made a X major impact on
me. You are the only sane person. It will be 98% on your porposal. We will
reserve part for the Azores.
B: Sure.
K: Don't tell Connally I told you this.
B: OK
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Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of privacy\nG. Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential H. Library\nWithdrawn and returned non-historical material.\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has-been rewiewed.pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nDOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD [NIXON PROJECT]\nDOCUMENT\nDOCUMENT\nNUMBER\nTYPE\nSUBJECT/TITLE OR CORRESPONDENTS\nDATE\nRESTRICTION\n1\nTekon\nHAK and the President (4 pp)\n11/26/71\nB\n2\nTelcon\nHAK and John Seali (2pp.)\n11/26/71\nB\n3\nTekon\nHAK and William Rogers (3 pp.)\n11/29/71\nA\nSANITIZED\nFILE GROUP TITLE\nBOX NUMBER\nKissinger Transcripts - Telephone Conversations\n12\nFOLDER TITLE\n1971 24-30 Nov.\nRESTRICTION CODES\nA. Release would violate a Federal statute or Agency Policy.\nE. Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential commercial or\nB. National security classified information.\nfinancial information.\nC. Pending or approved claim that release would violate an individual's\nF. Release would disclose investigatory information compiled for law\nrights.\nenforcement purposes.\nD. Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of privacy\nG. Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nH. Withdrawn and returned non-historical material.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION DECLASSIFIED 1989-235-084/00024\nNA 14021 (4-85)\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMr. Kissinger/Mr. Peterson\n9:20 a. m., November 24, 1971\nP:\nCould I see you for a few minutes?\nK:\nIt's impossible, but I will try this morning. They have me\ntraining for a dentist with half-hour appointments. If I learn the\nskills, I will know how to keep them. I think the President was\nvery anxious for me to tell you that he doesn't want you to take a\ntrip right now at all. I think your colleague is one of the people\nwho is unhappy with it. He said later on and you would understand\nit -- it would be a much better context in which to do it.\nP:\nWe have set up a lot of dates; I wonder what my reasoning\nshould be.\nK:\nThere is this G-10 meeting and everything is coinciding.\nP:\nI saw Connally about this. He asked me to talk to you. I\nwould like to find out.\nK:\nI'm leaving at 3:00 [gave his appointments until then]. Maybe\nbetween my 10:30 and 12:15 appointments. Let me call you when I\nam through.\nlds\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nShultz/Kissinger\n12:12 p.m.\n11/24/71\nS: We had a discussion of budget items this morning. We used 78.5. We will\ncome back to that this afternoon with you.\nK: 1 hat's all right.\nS: I wanted you to know. If the President decides to go that way with out\nmanagement I think the communication process for Laird is\na meeting followed by a memo. That from John Court that increases\nare joint memo.\n1\nK:\nhat's all right. I terned Peterson off.\n&\nS: Was he in tears?\nK: Well--\nS: How did it get started?\nK: I have no idea.\nS: OK.\nK: No idea.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nKurt Bireenbach/Kissinger\n1:13 p.m.\n11/24/71\nK: On Bartzel. If he makes a request we will approve it but not released to the\nnewspapers.\nB: Should he make a formal request through youx or the embassy?\nK: The embassy.\nB: Janauary?\nK: Yes. Latter half of January.\nB: Very well and I will see him on Friday at 9:00.\nK: Give me some advance notice when he makes the request.\nB: Shall I call you XXX or Hal Sonnenfelct?\nK: Me.\nB: Do you differentiate in your country between the Moscow Treaty and the\nWarsaw Treaty?\nK: More sympathetick to the Warsaw Treaty.\nB: This is what I understood. I am most grateful to you. In Rochester every-\nthing was fine for me.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n2:45 p.m. 11/24/71\nK: I am returning your call.\nR: Can't be the most important thing in the world [couldn't remember what\nhe had called about]. On this memo I was going to get to you by 5:00, I will\nbe delayed. I will give to Al and he can send it to you. I have just talked\nwith Indian and Pakistani. I read it on the Indian. Xx He says it's a lie, a\nstory completely opposite from the Pakistanis. I said it's not understandable\nwhy they won't allow observers to go in. I reminded him of the conversation\nwith the PM and he said the PM doesn't want it. So I said disengage. Yayga\nwill do it. I said work it out on the ground. I reminded him of ? ? ? ?.\nKeating is agonizing. What the hell was it -- I thought the meeting this morning\nwas good. Oh, I know. The Pakistani asked me about Marvin Kalb's story\nthat we are considering Security Council Action. We have just talked with\nthe President. Said it's a matter for Pakistan to decide. He said they are\nconsidering it. He hasn't hearf from his government. They are considering it.\nK: It's good to know.\nR: Beam saw Kuznetsov.\nK: He is not the most forceful ambassador we have. One thing I have\nasked you -- stories in last week's XX papers coming from State. Memo requirir\nclearances on committee ? ? ? ? ? ?. We sent it out because of ACDA.\nR: What stories?\nK: That State demoralized over WH control. Feel that they had something about\nyou asking not to complain. On India/Pakistan I don't think we should have\nany disagreements because theyx there are none.\nR: I saw that seking story but didn't mention that.\nK: Not on the front page.\nR: I was annoyed at the lead but the story was good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMr. Kissinger/Ambassador Ushiba\n3:22 p.m., November 24, 1971\nK:\nMr. Ambassador, how are you; would you be able to come\nby to see me at 4:15?\nU:\nI will be there.\nK:\nCan we keep this visit between ourselves -- really between\nourselves?\nU:\nI will come alone.\nlds\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nR. Zeigler/Kissinger\n3:30 p.m.\n11/24/71\nK: Statements that the State Dept. making contrary to our policy. Can you\ncontrol what State is saying?\nZ: I can try. What areas?\nK: State says no eveidence of Indian participation.\nZ: Xxxx When?\nK: Two days ago. Let them -- why don't we establish a line in the morning and\nyou send it to them and tell them not to deviate from this line.\nZ: Fine. I will call you every morning.\nK: Tell Bray that the President has ordered because of the delicacy of the\nsituation that you are doing this and not to deviate.\nZ: Sure.\nK: This afternoon.\nZ: OK.\nFurther call\nK:\nin for an hour to discuss India/Pakistan situation.\nZ: Jesus!\nK: Could you do it?\nI\nZ: I said xe referred to it as a routine xxxxxxx meeting.\nK: Just say India/Pakistan situation.\nZ: Any particular point? Any concern?\nK: We are watching it with concern.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nRobert Kleiman\n11/24/71 4:20 p.m.\nRK: I'm delighted you are going to the Azores -- I think it's great.\nK: Good.\nRK: I want to come to Washington; I can be there on the first\nor from the 15th to the 17th.\nK: 15 - 17 is much better for me.\nRK: Okay then I'll plan on that and be in touch with your office.\nCan you give me some guidance on this? Is it to wrap up the monetary thing?\nK: It's to talk about what the announcement says. Before we go\ninto meetings with Peking and Moscow we want to talk with our allies.\nWe will also discuss monetary things, but that is not the point.\nRK: Isn't it a little early for preparing for Peking and Moscow?\nK: Yes, but that is only the basic cause; there may be others.\nRK: Good, will you\nsome of the others too?\nK: Eventually, yes.\nRK: Before you go?\nK: Yes.\nRK: And Peking is when, January or February?\nK: We will be announcing it soon.\nRK: What is your outlook on the financial, monetary thing? Do\nyou think the series of meetings offers a chance of cleaning up the this mess?\nK: I think you can think we are moving in a positive direction\nwithin the month or so. We are talking the record.\nRK: No, for deepest background.\nK: The time seems to be ripe for deep discussions.\nRK: I presume we are prepared to devalue the dollar\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nRobert Kleiman\n11/24/71 4:20 p.m. p, 2\nK: I don't want to go into any of that.\nRK: What do you think Pompidou's main problem is now?\nK: We are just at the beginning of that exploration, but our\nimpression is he'll be\n.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMrs. Schlosser/Kissinger\n11/26/71\nMrs. Schbsser proposed at 7:30 dinner Monday, Nov. 29. HAK suggested\n8:00 was better. Mrs. S. indicated very informal and conversational. At\nher home, 713 N. Bedford Dr., Beverley Hills 2 blokks from BH Hotel.\nShe asked if the Secret Service would be checking it out and HAK indicated\nthey would probably drive by. He also asked that she have something available\nto feed them that evening. Mrs. S. Said it was fine if HAK wanted to bring\na date - - either way was fine but if he did bring someone she would like to\nknow in advance. HAK said he would let her know Sat.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:9:42-Nov. 26, 1971\nMr. Kissinger/\nOtis Chandler\nK:\nOtis, how are you?\nC:\nWelcome to foggy California. I was interested to read about your\nson. I can just about imagine what happened.\nK:\nI can tell you he is so mad at the Los Angees Times. He thinks if\nI had kept my big mouth shut it would have blown over.\nC:\nWhat I called you about is on December 6th, Monday, we are having\na ceremony for the Time Women of the Year in which we usually\nhonor ten to twenty women of the year. I would very much like to\nhave you talk at the ceremony for about 15 minutes. The 500 women\ninvited are the best in their fields such as authors, movie actresses,\netc. and was wondering if you could come out here and do it.\nK:\nCould I check my calendar first. I would like to try and do it.\nC:\nIt would be in the afternoon about 1:30 for a couple of hours.\nK:\nWe have the Brazilian President coming on the 7th. Let me check\nwith my calendar. It wouldn't have to be on foreign policy would it.\nI could talk about Maxine Cheshire and why she should be dropped from\nthe Times. Let me see, but I am not too optimistic about it.\nC:\nWell, if you are free. If you could come out and you might even\nhave dinner with us.\nK:\nNo, I couldn't do that, I would have to return to Washington right away.\nC:\nWell check your calendar and let me know.\nK:\nI will do that and call you back. You know I always try to do my best\nwhen you ask me to do something.\nC:\nYes, I know and it would be very stimulating. The women are tops\nin their fields.\nK:\nHow long a talk?\nC:\nAbout 15 to 20 minutes.\nK:\nLet me see how it would work out.\nC:\nGood, getting some rest?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nK:\nYes, some rest.\nare\nC:\nWhen/you going back?\nK:\nProbably Tuesday or Wednesday. Let me call you, OK.\nC:\nYes, fine.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nVorontxov/Kissinger\n9:50 a. m.\n11/26/71\nV: I hope it's nice weather.\nK: It's not. It's the first time that it isn't.\nyou V: Too bad. My question is since it's not convenient to talk over the phone when\nxixwill be back.\nK: Wed.\nV:\nI hope --\nK: You could do if you want to talk before then , you can come to my office\nand talk there.\nV: It will wait until Wed. It concerns some idea about Jan. If you recall your\nlast talk with Anatoly. It's fine and OK.\nK: Heunderstood that this may not be possible for me. I said this is the earliest.\nV: They say January is fine. Since it was mentioned. Some details and we\ncan talk about some further ideas on Wed.\nK: Certainly. No need for you to call me.\nV: Details better to talk about in person.\nK: While you are on the phone, will you convey to your people our great concern\nabout the situation on the subcontinent and certainly noted favorable here if the\nSoviets were to relieve efforts. We get reports from people there talking\non another level.\nV: Probably some kind of ? ? ? telephone.\nK: We will get togehter. When does the Ambassacor come back?\nV: Sometime before the new year or just after.\nK: I hope he gets a good rest. Give him my warm regards.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMrs. Cramer/Kissinger\n10:08 a. m.\n11/26/71\nK: What is your opinion on the Women of the Year thing? Otis called me.\nC: No. It's for his mother. I am sponsoring Ali McGraw. There are\n12 awards. The L.A. Times will cover it well.\nK: I don't need coverage. (Told story that David Kissinger mad at him because\nof story on him in morning paper.)\nC: £ Monday's paper will say something about David. Quote regarding how to\ntop David and you said either the President will have to announce he is not\ngoing to Peking or put David up beside him.\nK: I would have to fly out and fly right back.\nC: Mrs. Chandler would be delighted and looking ahead to '72 it's good.\nK: What does the speaker do?\nC:\ntold marvelous stroies. Anecdotes on show business.\nYou can speak on anything.\nK: another year out here and I will be able to do anecddes of show business.\nC. You can do them of Washington. If you do it I will be there. Gather before\nfor champagne and the thing last ah hour.\nK: Very unlikely I can do it. Soxxx From a personal point of view I don't need\nthe publicity. From the Administration point of view I think it would be\nclever. I will put it to Haldeman and the President.\nC: It would help the editorial position in '72. Any length speech on any subject.\nYou can leave after it's over.\nK: I can do it timewise. It's murderous. But I could go out in tbe morning\nand have lunch and be back by midnight. He said it would be over by 3:30.\nC: Starts at 2:00. I guess he asked you to lunch, otherwise you could have\nlunch with Veronique Peck and me.\nK: I was discouraging but he was so eager.\nC: Veronique and I will have lunch at\nand then go down. The ladies are\nmrs. Chandler's 400. Most influential group in L.A.\nK: All those ladies will be Democrats in '72.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMrs. Cramer/Kissinger\n10:08 a. m.\n11/26/71\n-2-\nC: Maybe Veronique but I am not sure how I will come up. The only reason\nwould be you.\nK: 20 minute speech?\nC: I am sure you could make it shorter or longer. I make a 2 minute speech\nfor Ali. She will probably be last.\nK: Acrtress of the year?\nC: Woman in entertainment and movies. Bob Hope's Delores also getting it.\nYou can stay for Schlossers.\nK: That's the week after.\nC: Oh, so you will have to fly out for it. Fly out with me on Sunday.\nK: I can't do it. I have friends in Washington that weekend. The time change\nworks in favor of it. I could leave at 8:30 and just make it and come back that\nday. I have to be there on the 7th because there's a Brazilian State visit. Latin\nAmericans are so touchy and if I am not there they will claim neglect. They\nbore me to distraction. I will put it to Haldeman.\nC: It can only help the Administration.\nK: I may see you Monday night.\nC: You will and if you come for this we will have lunch maybe.\nK: I will be there in time. Only a two hour -- if I left at 9:00 a.m. I would be\nthere at 11:30 a.m. But I doubt I will do it. I am going to Palm Springs after\nmy children leave on Suaday.\nC: Going to Wallaces on Sunday night?\nK: Yes.\nC: Martha told me. Martha Hyer and xx charming and Hal is the top Γpxxx\nproducer. Live right across from Frank's. You saw us there.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:10:42-Nov. 26, 1971\nMr. Kissinger/\nThe President\nK:\nMr. President.\nP:\nHenry anything going on today?\nK:\nWe made the announcement on the British and it has gone well.\nP:\nYou did it their time I hope.\nK:\n9 o'clock.\nP:\nIt suited them alright.\nK:\nYes.\nP:\nThey were going to do it in Parliament?\nK:\nNo, it would have tied them up. The Japanese have come back and\nwe are going to do it at 3 o'clock tomorrow afternoon.\nP:\nGood, it is better for us.\nK:\nSo everything seems to be working out alright.\nP:\nI noticed with interest the Pakistanis claim they are doing pretty well\nand I would like the Indians to be embarrassed.\nK:\nThe Indians have pulled off on this one but they are going to have\nto come back\nKeating finally delivered the message and\nthey are all over him. What we should do with the arms is wait\nuntil they make another military move.\nP:\nPakistan provocation\nI saw that they admitted it they were in\nthere\nK:\nOh yes, they admitted it. The New York Times wrote a scorcher\nAgainst India.\nP:\nDid you talk to the Times and tell them that was the case.\nK:\nYes I talked to\n(?) I said if anyone is to blame for the war\nit is by following your advice. Cutting off aid to Pakistan.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nULN08-51/12397 Per Hr. 9/11/2013\nBy RS MIH NARA, Date 5/12/2017\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\n[p.10f4]\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nP:\nWell and the thing is novel - it is the point I have been making\nand I hope you pushed it on Pakistan that we cut off their aid\nbecause of their internal conduct not for their external conduct.\nSo we cut off aid and India busts into Pakistan and that is worse.\nWas it a strong editorial?\nK:\nOh yes, Mrs. Gandhi has betrayed her father.\nP:\nOf course her father was just as bad as she is. What she said was\nso unconscionable and the Pakistanis were so prefabricated. On the\nPakistan thing you feel no action on the arms thing should be taken.\nK:\nI think as soon as military action starts again we should cut off aid.\nP:\nI still want Connally, State and Hannah to say nothing is being moved\ninto the economic aid pipeline into India. Are they riding herd\non this They will get the message.\nK:\nOh no question. We are just not saying anything. We are not signing\nthe PL 480 and we won't say what the reason is for. The Chinese -\nI told them you can't just say you are against the Indians and you\nbetter tell the Pakistanis what you are going to do. Do it independently\nand show them the resolution you are putting forth.\nWe are going\npretty far in condemning India.\nYou talked with Heath.\nP:\nDid they put it out.\nK:\nYes, and I think you should call Brandt tomorrow.\nP:\nYes, OK and the British is playing well today?\nK:\nYes, I haven't seen it but Ziegler said yes.\nP:\nAre you going to follow up with Newsweek and the Times?\nK:\nYes, I have calls in for them.\nP:\nBut don't W say anything on the China thing. W Should we have a\nbackgrounder?\nK:\nRon thinks it would be a overkill that the press is very happy. I\ndon't want to scoop anything you will be saying on Tuesday SO I\nthink it would be better to let it drop. Let them speculate on Monday\nand then you do it all on Tuesday. On Monday we will announce the\ntrip and say you will have a press conference on Tuesday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 3 -\nP:\nYes, and give no details whatsoever and they will speculate on\nMonday.\nK:\nA week from today would be a good timefor a backgrounder and\nif anything requires tightening up we should do it next week - like\nnext Friday - see how the press plays it.\nP:\nYes, I agree very good.\nK:\nThe French press over this is absolutely spectaular. This is the\nbest play we have had in France. This is really excellent press play.\nThe time couldn't have been better chosen. (Dr. K reads some of\nthe French press play to the President).\nP:\nYou know that is one thing maybe Ziegler could do - he should try\nto get the foreign reaction in our own papers here. Do it very low\nkey. I'll tell you why these are bette r meetings. These are far\nmore significant because they are totally substantive and no protocol,\nno dinner, etc. no Embassy receptions. Normally these kinds of\nvisits are more than overtaken by crap. This is the kind of meeting\nwe should have - strictly substantive.\nK:\nIn this atmosphere we can't help but settle something.\nP:\nThis is very important and the British will get a lot of special\nattention. The British know we tell them things that we don't tell\nanyone else. Like this India/Pakistani thing. How has the reaction\nbeen in the world on the British/Rhodesia thing?\nK:\nWe have no reaction yet at all.\nP:\nWe don't oppose this we support it. We have got to help Britian\nbring out the chaos in that part of the world. Should I put out a\nnote.\nK:\nNo if you name is on a paper it will leak.\nand tell\nP:\nOK tell / / / / Bush that we frankly support the British\non this thing and also tell Newsome and the UN should know.\nknow,\nK:\nWell if they don't/they should. I have convyed this to them.\nP:\nWell we are going to have one hell of a busy month. The State people\nknow the Chinese thing will be announced?\nK:\nYes\nBrandt and Pompidou about the Chinese thing. They won't\nleak.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 4 -\nP:\nOf course one of the main things and I want you to emphasize\nthis will be consultation when it counts. Both of these trips are\nwithout preconditions\nHow about the Connally thing\nand the Pope?\nK:\nThat is all done.\nP:\nI would do it very low key.\nK:\nThat is the way we are doing it.\nP:\nMake sure it isn't set up that it looks political. Secretary Connally\nis just reporting on his trip x to Asia as well as the monetary thing.\nDo the Italy thing in the morning and the Vatican thing in the afternoon\nK:\nYes, that is right.\nP:\nGood.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMrs. Javits/Kissinger\n11:11 a. m.\n11/26/71\nJ: Jack, because he's on the other side of that other Senator, and in NY we\nthought we would put together a dinner for the new Ambassador from Peking. We\nthought it would be xxxxx at home for a small dinner and reception. This was\nbefore we heard Peking threatened to send troops into Egypt.\nK: I don't believe that.\nJ: No further word on it. Make it in your honor if you agree.\nK: Certainly. Anything you two decide I am almost automatically for.\nJ: You are too much. We have decided.\nK: How will you put the invitation to the Chinese?\nJ: Extend an personal invitation from the Senator and myself to our home to\nmeet our friends and greeting them in an informal way.\nK: As much as I would love to be invited by you I think there's a 40-60 chance\nthey will come. Less chance they will come if it's in my honor. I think so.\nI think they like me but will want to avoid a situation of having colluded with us.\nJ: Do you think this is valid? I thought it would soften the situation.\nK: If you give a dinner, have the dinner small.\nJ: That's what we thought. We could keep it to 12.\nK: If you want to give in my honor, I am delighted, but major thing is how to\nget the Chinese.\nJ: Directly. Unless I have to go through protocol. I should probably go through\nBush but we don't want to get involved.\nK: You are knownfor the frontal approach. Extend the invitation but don't way I a\non the invitation. They want to be on parallel courses with us but I don't want thei\nto think it's rigged.\nJ: Can it be cooperative? Want to contribute and not a social thing.\nK: I think it's interesting to see what happens.\nif\nPersonalaxxxx\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMrs. Javits/Kissinger\n11:11 a. m.\n11/26/71\n-2-\nJ: A personal welcome to our home to meet our friends. If we don't say it's\nin your honor and you come, it won't matter. Other then that if they accept I\ncould indicat who would be available.\nK: You can tell them who who are inviting. In fact, I would.\nJ: Any significance?\nK: They might find it tough to go to a dinner in my honor and then the Russians\nhear of it and say here are these guys running with American imperialists. Whereas\nif it is a dinner for your friends and I ama friend nothing can be done. You can\nlater say it's in my honor or not.\nJ: I thought a dinner and reception is 20-40. Any suggestions?\nK: Nelson would be good.\nJ: I thought so. That will be 8. Two more of their people.\nalone.\nK:\nwon't comexadoxigx Invite him, his deputy, and can bring an interprete:\nJ: Could make dinner up to 20. Can hold 12 and 8 at two round tables. Any other\nthoughts on it -- I will do what you are saying which is my instinct. Jack said to\ntalk with you. If he says yesk, I will call you and make arrangements with you.\nK: I don't dare say no to you.\nJ: Come to NY and we can giggle.\nK: You promixed to have lunch with me in Washington.\nJ: When will you be back?\nK: Dec. 1.\nJ: Can you come on the 13th?\nK: In the Azores.\nJ: What about sooner? Next Sat. ? I could put it together quickly. Or the 8th?\nK: The 8th I could do it.\nJ: All right.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMrs. Javits/Kissinger\n11:11 a. m.\n11/26/71\n-3-\nK: I like a girl with confidence. Any girl who can deliver the delegation from Peking\nin 7 days is quite a\n. If you had my job, you would have made getting to\nPeking look effortless.\nJ: I would try to match it but not do better. I can't go see them. Shall I send a letter?\nK: Xx \" As the senior Republican Senator from NY, I would like to ixrxfxx invite some\nfriends to our home and introduce you. #\nJ: What other dates?\nK: 10th. After that it's bad. After that I could do it on the 22nd.\nJ: You concede that 20-30 after for the reception.\nK: They will be more receptive to a smaller group.\nJ: 12-20 for dinner.\nK: Think twice about the reception. Ask their opinion.\nJ: Shall I go and see anyone there?\nK: Write them a letter. Have a dinner and invite some friends. We are willing to\nhave reception with more friends but up to you.\nJ: 7th also possible?\nK: No. We have a State dinner.\nJ: I will get in touch with them and call you later.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:11:35-Nov. 26, 1971\nMr. Kissinger/\nHugh Sidey\nK:\nWhat do you do - hide under your desk when I call your office. I\nhope your office gave you my message.\nS:\nThey told me to call you back.\nK:\nI called you about the following - in order to be kind to Times.\nAnd this is all on an off the record basis. We have announced\ntoday a visit with Heath and we have announced one with Prompidou.\nNow strictly for your information we are going to announce a\nmeeting with Sato tomorrow and Brandt on Sunday. Now if you\ncould handle your people out here and if they could be discreet\nabout it I will ask Ziegler to give them the exact dates and places.\nS:\nI think you should give it to them tomorrow - not today - but\nSaturday afternoon. The Sund paper would have gone to the\npress and the interest is down. What time tomorrow?\nK:\n3 o'clock tomorrow.\nS:\nNow that is tough because it is six o'clock here.\nK:\nWell let me talk to Ron about this because the press will be moving\nwith the President - he is going to Palm Springs tomorrow.\nS:\nI will handle it out here. To make it effective it should be in New\nYork at one or two o'clock - about nine o'clock your time.\nK:\nCouldn't Ron call them at 8 o'clock in the morning.\nS:\nWhen does the President go to Palm Springs?\nK:\nI don't have the schedule here.\n9 o'clock.\nS:\nThat would be fine with us and we should be secure.\nK:\nMy preference is to do it with you alone but I don't want to hurt\nJerry's feelings.\nS:\nWell don't worry about that. I will take care of it.\nK:\nAnd also I want to get Ron in the act.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nS:\nIf I could get a firm\non it tomorrow morning.\nK:\nI will tell Ron to call your people in the morning and get it to you.\nI will tell him I have already talked to you and to give it to no one\nelse but you. Is that alright with you.\nS:\nThat will be fine.\nK:\nAnd I will call you to make sure you got it.\nS:\nYou will be busy from now on.\nK:\nWe are making obviously the Chinese announcement next week and\nwe want to emphasize that our allies come first.\nS:\nYes, that is first rate and I appreciate it very much. It makes it\nlook like we know what we are doing.\nK:\nYes, and I will give it to Elfin. I can't give it to you exclusively\nand you both can report fairly on it.\nS:\nYes, that will be fine. How is everything going out there? There is\nnot going to be a picture of Judy Brown in it.\nK:\nAs long as Judy Brown is out of it and it doesn't make me look\nlike a playboy I don't care.\nS:\nYes, that has already been taken care of.\nK:\nThat is fine.\nS:\nI will keep an eye on it to see how it is going along.\nK:\nI will be glad to get it over with. Well, I will call you tomorrow\nmorning to make sure everything is on track and I will ask Ron to\ncall Jerry Schecter in the morning.\nS:\nFine.\nK:\nHow was your Thanksgiving? I have my kids out here.\nS:\nGood. Well as you said you have Bermuda and the Azores ahead of yo\nK:\nWell I will call you in the morning. Where will you be.\nS:\nEither at home or here in the office. I think your office has both\nnumbers.\nK:\nGood.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:11: 55, November 26, 1971\nMr. Kissinger/Ron Ziegler\nK:\nLook, I talked to both Hugh Sidey and Mel Elfin. You have seen\nthe announcements. I told them I wanted to tell them off the re-\ncord about two other announcements. Ron feels that he is\nprepared to give the details to your people out here. What is\ninteresting is that they wanted their people to be told tomorrow\nand not today.\nZ:\nFine.\nK:\nHubbard is not out there,he is on vacation but Phil Cook is there.\nZ:\nYes, Cook that is right.\nK:\nYou can tell them the dates and the places tomorrow. I have\nalready told them (Sidey and Elfin) the announcements will be made.\nThey would like it first thing in the morning because they close at\n6 o'clock. Did I handle it alright?\nZ:\nYou did very well. Did David really get upset.\nK:\nLook, you kept him out of it. He is so mad at me. He said if\nI had kept my mouth shut it would have all blown over.\nZ:\nHow will he ever be able tc face his classmates again. But worse\nof all, how will he ever be able to face the press again.\nK:\nRon - I have a call from the President. I will have to cut off.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:12Noon-Nov. 26, 1971\nMr. Kissinger/\nThe President\nK:\nMr. President.\nP:\nSince Scali is out here it might be useful if you could give him\nsome of the background stuff. Why the consultations are\nimportant and really substantive meetings and not just protocol\nmeetings.\nK:\nGood.\nP:\nIt is awfully hard to nitpick this.\nK:\nI just talked to Hugh Sidey. He thinks it is just terrific. It has\ngot the touch and falling into place now.\nP:\nYou filled him in on all four meetings.\nK:\nYes. I didn't give him the times and places, just that they are\ngoing to take place. I also talked to Elfin.\nP:\nGood.\nK:\nRon will call their people here in the morning.\nP:\nGood, but I think we should tell Scali a little.\nK:\nI gave him some of the details yesterday on India and Pakistan.\nP:\nGood, so you can give him a little fill in on this line.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:12:20-Nov. 26, 1971\nMr. Kissinger/\nMr. Head in Prime Minister Trudeau's Office\nK:\nHello.\nH:\nDr. Kissinger. This is Iving(?) Head speaking in Prime Minister\nTrudeau's office. I meddle around on foreign policy for Prime\nMinister Trudeau. He wanted to express to you an increasing\nfeeling that in his words are growing - feelings of anti-American.\nWith two opposition parties who have long had a nationalistic feel\nin their platforms and the conservative party\nThe govern-\nment's response in Canada so far has been an intellectual(?)\nreply.\nK:\nWhat is the basis for the anti-American?\nH:\nIt is difficult to say. Some is the papers. They are saying the\nU.S. has forgotten about Canada Its attitude is directed more\nto get raw materials from us without consultations\nbitting\ntowards the Americans. There must be much more important\nproblems facing the U.S. and the economic problem with which\nwe\nThe reason I called today is because we have been\nunder attack by the House of Commons because of either reluctance\non the Prime Minister's part or the President Nixon's part to\ncommunicate with each other when it is essential to do so. We\nhave learned about the upcoming meeting with the Western\nleaders. The Conservative Party is holding a convention here in\nthe next few days.\nK:\nWhat should we do?\nH:\nIf we could get our two heads together in a short while. But that is\nup to President Nixon's timetable.\nK:\nYou and I ought to be able to work together.\nH:\nWell certainly from our political interest here - it is wrong for\nthe U.S. not to have the old image they had.\nK:\nOn the telephone or what.\nH:\nWell, they have talked on the phone before. If they could meet\nit would be much better\ntrade chafter we are not including(?)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nK:\nI understand. You appreciate of course that I am not in a position\nto make any commitment on this.\nH:\nYes.\nK:\nObviously we are close allies and we should maintain that relation-\nship. The question is would the Prime Minister be prepared to\ncome to Washington?\nH:\nOf course. I can say this categorically.\nK:\nLet me think out loud. One could arrange a two hour session in the\nPresident's office and then maybe a small informal dinner at night.\nH:\nFine.\nK:\nX Let me get on that.\nH:\nGood.\nK:\nMay I get back to you on Monday?\nH:\nYes.\nK:\nWell first of all you tell the Prime Minister I am an admirer of his\nand second, this government wants to maintain a close relationship\nwith Canada\nthe communication with us about Kosygin's\nvisit was very fair and proper the way you handled it. I would tell\nyou if something is wrong. I think I could give you a feel of some\ntangibles. Let me see what I can do and see if I can arrange a\nvisit by the Prime Minister.\nH:\nGood. That would be very good here.\nK:\nAfter we have a date we could announce it very quickly. Let me\nsee what I can do by Monday or Tuesday. Certainly sometime\nnext week.\nH:\nGood. I want to assure you domestically and politically here to\nK:\nM&XXXX It doesn't make any sense for us to visit Peking and Moscow\nif we can't have a decent relationship with our cloest ally. We will\ndo our best on our side.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 3 -\nH:\nI am very grateful to you and sorry to burst in on you.\nK:\nNo indeed. That is very good and I will get in touch with you on\nMonday or Tuesday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nJerry Schecter/Kissinger\n12:35 p.m.\n11/26/71\nS: You are ruinning your son's credibility.\nK: He took the caption in the L.A. Times ill. If I kept my mouth shut he could\nhave ridden this out.\nS: Did you run it?\nK: He thinks I put the WH up to disavowing him.\nS: I think we should make light of it.\nK: I would if I were you.\nS: I will do a nice thing about it.\nK: Do make light of it.\nS: I would appreciate -- Grunwald talked to you about Man of the Year cover.\nK: Don't expect me to cooperate on something I am not part of.\nS: We wiklx are saving you for next year.\nK: Do you know there's no bar to foreign born becoming Vice President?\nDon't go with it. I am still debating it. But I see a great ground swell for it.\nWhat about the Man of the Year?\nS: Could you and I sit down for an hour and talk about the overview?\nK: When?\nS: At your convenience. I thought it might be easier out here.\nK: I am talking about a day of sunshine in Palm Springs on Monday.\nS: I could come down there.\nK: Can I call you tomorrow or Monday? Or Tues, we could do it. It's not\nurgent.\nS: It is in that the deadline for me is early.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nK; We will do it Monday or Tues.\nS: Great. I appreciate how busy you are but for some thing like this --\nK: We should do it leisurely.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\"\nHaldeman/Kissinger\n2:00 p.m.\n11/26/71\nK: The President would like David to get an appointment on the press staff\nbecause he has gotten k more publicity for himself then you can.\nH: I agree. But I could get on the front page by announcing the &hanxx China\ndate too. I hope no one is upset about that. It's funny.\nK: Particularly on Monday it will be\nH: Shows how stupid the press is.\nK: We keep saying don't go with it. But they do. The stock market went\nup 17 points.\nH: On David's announcement?\nK: I bet. Trudean called and wants a meeting. I mentioned it to the President\nand he is for it.\nH: When.\nK: The sooner the better.\nH: Up there?\nK: He will come down for an office appointment. Two hour meeting and the\nPresident wants to add a dinner. I looked at the schedule. The 6th?\nH: It's dangerous when you look at the schedule.\nK: The one Bull has. The President would like to do it the week of the 6th.\nIn practice it will have to be on the 6th or the x9x 10th.\nH: 6th of Dec. ?\nK: I know what you are doing that day.\nH: It would be great. Trudeau let us get some film?\nK: Probably 5 mins. at the beginning.\nH: More?\nK: Why? Don't you think 5? or 10?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nH: Only problem doing it that day is that we are committed to NBC for $isislsn\nfilm coverage of the President's activities.\nK: Give me a later date. He won't take it.\nH: It will be hard. He is planning to go to Florida from the Azores.\nK: Do I have to go?\nH: No. Domestic types down and work on budget.\nK: That's good. I think I should go to Florida on the weekend and ride\nup with him.\nH: You should go back to Washington and we will ride down some domestic\ntypes and you come on the weekend. And ride over to Bermuda with him.\nThen he is thinking of going back to Florida but I don't think so.\nK: Unwise.\nH: I think he will go to Washington through Christmas and back through the\n29th. Then you can say the 23rd.\nK: We will announce the Trudeau on Wed. Japan going tomorrow.\nH: Heath today?\nK: Yes. Going very well.\nH: Japs tomorrow. Germans Sunday?\nK: Yes.\nH: Good. Chinese on Monday. Nothing on Tuesday.\nK: Press conference.\nH: We had better plan a trip -- where can we go to announce on Tues. ?\nK: You don't think a press conference is enough? I will give a 0 backgrounders\nand we will have morning and an afternoon. Wed., Canada. We have to have\ntwo hours -- 3:00 - 5:00.\nH: That's a big chunk out of that day.\nK: Will, an hour and a half.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-3-\nH; And dinner?\nK: t hat's what the President wants.\nH: It screws up the TV thing.\nK: Won't it help for meeting on TV?\nH: A little. Wouldn't be bad. We can have enough other stuff. What's\nhe have in mind? Working dinner?\nK: Yeah.\nH: That wouldn't be bad. Adifferent dinner on TV. If that's goo, let's go.\nIt has both pluses and minuses. It takes a chunk of time.\nK: 4:00 - 5:30.\nH: Offer him that. WhatxOught to keep the 10th clear. Doesn't he need time\nto get ready for Pompidou?\nK: I would prefer if he did.\nH: Give him the 6th or 23rd.\nK: OK.\nH: See what you get. How are things there?\nK: Cold and miserable. How are they in Palm Springs?\nH: Quite nice.\nK: I am coming over on Sunday.\nH: Good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon:2:00-11/26/71\nMr. Kissinger/\nMr. Head in PM Trudeau's Office\nK:\nLook, I have talked to the President about this and in principle he\nthinks it is a good idea and what we would do is have the Prime\nMinister in Washington for an afternoon appointment and perhaps\na small dinner afterwards. Here is a small problem I have run\ninto. I have to get to the schedule people and with the various\nmeetings announced, one possible date is December 6th. That\nwould be a week from Monday.\nH:\nYes, right.\nK:\nThat has one technical disadvantage. The President had agreed to\nhave a television network follow him around and watch his activities.\n(One of the meetings then would have to go until around the 20th?)\nH:\nI am sure the earlier date would be better because Mrs. Trudeau\nis expecting their first child around Christmas. The exact date\nis Christmas day. I am sure that as the date approaches he would\nbe very reluctant to leave her.\nK:\nIt would have to be the 22 or 21st actually (British or Berlin?). But\ntell the Prime Minister the President agrees in principle. If you\ncould hold off we would let you know on Monday or Tuesday. You\ndon't need a lot of time do you, if we could do it the 6th?\nH:\nNo, the 6th would be fine. There is nothing on his calendar that\ncouldn't be changed if it had to.\nK:\nWell let's keep the 6th.\nH:\nThat is very kind of you and I appreciate it.\nK:\nKindness is not a trait of mine. It is in our mutual interest.\nH:\nFine, I understand.\nK:\nWell we will have it in December and I will call you on Monday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nArthur Burns/Kissinger\n2:15 p.m.\n11/26/71\nK: I am returning your call.\nB: I wanted to check with you a couple of things. Have you seen the CIA\nreport on the new economic policy and foreign reaction to it?\nK: No.\nB: It came out a few days ago. I wanted to be sure you saw it and read it and\nbrief the President on it.\nK: I will get it.\nB: It's a very effective docement and texx deals with the international monetary\nproblem.\nK: I am XX in the problem. I have 6 me to the ??????. Your professor\nis the problem.\nB: He works in Labor and knows nothing about finance and to go into this is\nshocking.\nK: I basically agree with you. I think he was a little helpful the other day.\nAt that point on 2-3 other occasions and everytime we get Connally at the\npoint, Shultz comes in and then Connallys' competitive instincts come into it.\nB: I was only recently aware of it. I didn't know Shultz was in it.\nK: I didn't either.\nB: I think we have progress.\nK: I do too.\nwho is no. 2 in\nB: I had another call from ther Germans today. Henninger/XXXXXXXXXX\nHe talked about the whole business. They are heading into a recession and\ncentral bank has to lower interests rates so as not to have too much unem-\nployment. When they do that the biggest companies ? ? ? ? ? ? ? will\nrepay their dollar loan. Then the dollar is up and the Mark will be down.\nThey have to do this. Can't hold off more than 2-3 weeks. After that the\nGermans Mark which is down to 104, it will be difficult for them to reach\na percentage of\nwhich they are willing to do.\nK: The Germans will do it lower 6%. I don't know economics but I know\npolitics of it. I have talked with a lot of people and these are realities. George'\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nview that it can stay at 10 is nuts.\nB: The problem there is -- I have talked with George and he doesn't under-\nstand the seriousness of it.\nK: I can't associate with you at these meetings but I agree with you.\nB: It me ans a lot to me and the country.\nK: I will solve it in January and it will be close to your proposal. I don't\nknow if I can sell the convertibility part. I think it will sell itself.\nB: When is the Sato meeting set?\nK: Early January.\nB: That's good. After that we should meet with the Group of 10 and sew it\nup.\nK: A week or two afterwards. Aim for the 20th.\nB: OK. Good. When I get back I want to see you.\nK: I want to see you. And don't think you haven't made a X major impact on\nme. You are the only sane person. It will be 98% on your porposal. We will\nreserve part for the Azores.\nB: Sure.\nK: Don't tell Connally I told you this.\nB: OK\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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