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TELCON
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Henry Hubbard/Mr. Kissinger
8:05 p.m., December 16, 1971
K:
You didn't ask to see me.
H:
I'm not complaining.
K:
Our problem was to preserve West Pakistan and I think it is working
out. A major crisis has been avoided by bringing all the factors into
play including the Soviets.
H:
About the hard line you and the President took on the Indian thing,
there is a strain in relationships.
K:
Yeah, I think we told
H:
Was there a reason for it?
K:
Yeah, but I don't want to go any further into it. Do not ascribe this
In fact, I have information that it is very probable that India would
attack West Pakistan and smalh West Pakistan.
H:
But the Soviet Union --
K:
If we had not taken an anti-Indian line, they almost certainly would
have continued.
H:
I have no doubt of that.
Actually, people say we drove India awa
K:
There is no doubt. We don't do this
India bought about $600
million worth of Russian equipment while we were giving it billions
of aid SO we didn't move it intentionally into the Russian orbit., nor
will their future policy during the crisis. They want to be independent
of the Soviet Union and we have no reason to believe they will wish
to become Soviet satelittes.
The consequences of going
along with it would have been the destruction of a country of 100 million
people.
H:
Any reason to believe the Soviets responded to U.S. comments or
pressures.
K:
I wouldn't say pressures but there were xxx very active conversations
with Moscow.
H:
Moscow or Dobrynin?
K:
I don't want to mention the channels used but there was very active
action.
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