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TELCON
Mr. Kissinger/Ambassador Dobrynin
1/29/72
10:00
HAK: Good to see you last night
AD: Yes, and that couple was nice.
HAK: I think that will straighten out some of the atmospheric problems.
AD: You mentioned the 8th or 10th.
HAK: I may drag a bit and the reason is to have the man who will
conclude the meeting to initiate it. I would like Peterson to handle
it - - to do it on a personal basis. Regarding the matter which you
handed me a paper on last night. I haven't had an official position yet,
but there are two things I need--on a statement from your embassy
explaining they are Soviet citizents and why they do not have papers.
AD: They were brought by your agencies.
HAK: That is your problem. As far as the papers, they are Argentinians.
Just give us a statement, some formal statement, certifying they are
Soviet citizens declared by you. And secondly, it is the same problem
as before--they have to make a statement which State Department or
airport can have saying that they want to go back.
AD: This is no problem. Wouldn't yourofficials
HAK: We will handle that. If we do it, we will do it to be helpful and
not to make trouble. We want to make it routine.
AD: What kind of letter:
HAK: Just declare them Soviet citizens. If you agree, I am saying this
informally, if they are willing to give us statement saying these are
Soviet citizens - - you have no papers. This will not lead to a cross
examination
AD: I will check with Moscow.
HAK: If we do it, we won't set a trap for you--we just want to get it done.
Then I will figure out a form of doing it and we will do it without additional
questions.
AD: Should it be my statement?
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