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Mr. Kissinger/Jerry Smith
2/5/72
10:20 a. m.
HAK: Welcome back home.
JS: Thank you. I wanted to report I am available when anyone wants
to talk about SALT.
HAK:
Early next week--Monday - morning maybe.
JS: Is that when the Verification Panel is meeting?
HAK: Oh hell, let's have the Verification Panel meet on Wednesday.
JS: Good, I can get my thoughts together by Wednesday.
HAK: We have to get the defense plan on the table. Let them present
it--I am glad you are there for it. Laird is submitting the paper to the
President
We have to examine it.
JS: I will be glad to examine it.
HAK: I have had no other conversations with Dobrynin on the subject.
He seems to be badly informed about what was going on.
JS: My last conversation with Sab
, there was no flexibility.
HAK: I don't know how to interpret that.
JS: It sounds as though he was signaling something.
HAK: On the first or second comment?
JS: On the second comment.
HAK: The second remark was ambiguous. My impression is that there
will be an agrement. Dobrynin basic attitude was that it would be settled.
On the submarine
, I don't know. I don't understand the chiefs.
Why a big program and limitations. Why is the ICBM's to our disadvantage
when they are building them and we are not?
JS: Okay Henry. We'll see you next week.
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