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President/Kissinger 5:02 p.m. 2/9/72 -3- P: I will say you said it yesterday. Rattle these cannons. K: If you say it too often there is a slight problem. You can say it. P: On the World Report if they ask about US negotiations, what really went on, I will say Dr. Kissinger covered that with you gentlement and I will stand by that. Unless there is a point we want to get across. No need to raise it. K: Sequence was that in August we made a purely military proposal. P: Only time we WX separated was in May. I will say you covered all that. The more I can do that, the better. That's covered. I will now and then put something out SO they will know what I am doing. On the Rogers/Thieu business, we want to cool that. K: Bunker says it's a terrible problem for Thieu to see date of resignation is flexible for US. and ? ? ? ? ? ? . We have always said that these were Thiue's Ideas and we have fxxxxxxxxxxx followed Thieu's lead. P: You have cabled Thieu. K: Yes. They will riot if they think he is out of W power. Initiative moves from his side and handled in close concert with him. Vocal support to him. P: Doesn't help over here. We have to save him. OnIrish thing, what can we say? It's reaching awful far. Did you cover it in the World Report? K: No. P: I wish you had. None of our business. Can I say that? K: It's true but don'te know. P: Say we discussed matter with Heath and Lynch and we cannot interfere in this matter but glad to be of assistance if we are asked to. K: By all parties concerned. That goes the limit. P: If all parties think we can be helpful we will try. Will it exacerbate the Irish - British agony? K: It's a loser. P: Internationally but a winner domestically. But I will not take it on. The Irish are wrong.

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