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Stewart Alsop
3/9/72 12:28 p.m.
K: Stu, how are you? I wanted to correct one thing mentioned to you
the other day when we met. There is a State Department memo in a half-
assed way which makes the point you mentioned. It's entirely in the con-
text of the Warsaw Discussions -- never in the context of a major American
initiative.
A: On the U.S. mission to Peking?
K: I think I said there was no such document. We've been searching
the files and there is a document.
A: In Warsaw they said they would be willing to receive a mission?
K: We were just talking to them. It was a big deal at that time.
Since they didn't know what else we were doing they thought it had to be
sold to us.
A: I wasn't completely lied to?
K: You were lied to in substance. A second thing, I think it's out
of order
If I could keep you from this damn attack on Rogers.
A: I am not attacking Rogers.
K: You did on Spectrum yesterday.
A: I said he was an able and intelligent man but ghostly.
K: Somebody gave me a transcript of it. Really at this stage it
harms the nation's business, but I know that isn't your principal objective.
A: (A) I doubt if it does; (B) I need to talk about what interests the
people. It is the situation in which he finda himself. I don't think it was
an attack on him. I have been here for 25 years and I have written about
many people intthose positions.
K: I don't think his position is quite as weak as you say.
A: Every time you go to a cocktail party there is speculation of
who will replace Bill Rogers. When universally it is assumed that a
man will get out, he gets out. I think he will stay until after the election.
I am afraid on that issue I have to make my own judgments.
K: On every issue I have discussed with you you have made your own
judgments.
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