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TELCON Joe Johnson/Mr. Kissinger 4:00 p.m. 4/15/72 JJ: Henry, I understand why we are going to miss you. HAK: The North Vietnamese boil things up eavily in April. JJ: The people who are coming from Washington will be Zumwalt Brimmer--Senator Mathias, a Representative (doesn't mention) and Brock pulled out. Can you give Zumwalt some sense of what this is like and what should be said? HAK: Good idea. JJ: On the economic side, you may want to talk to Brimmer - - maybe not. Bob Shetzel (sp?) will be there so you may want to mention something to Bob--both - of those would be most helpful if you could talk to them. What about the Bangladesh and Palistinians? HAK: I think we are coming along well. JJ: What are you using us for? HAK: I have been preoccupied with Southeast Asia. We are acting in a humanitarian manner. JJ: I am a member of a committee set up by you and we are to be used a little by you--Maury and I wondered what the future would be. HAK: Let me think on it. I am sorry to have to miss you. JJ: Please send word that you have talked to Zumwalt and Schaetzel. HAK: You can count on me contacting Zummwalt.

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