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TELECON Secretary Laird (Secure Voice) 4/19/72 5:03 p. a . I: i wanted to just visit with you for a. few minutes about get to start addressing these costing figures, You didn't want to start addressing them till this week. Now WE are operating on a, deficiency It's not important, but it is important from the standpoint of where we end up at the end of this Fiscal Year. Think George Shultz was right -- we will have to take these out of force structure here in the United States, which amounts to $450 million probably. I am going to have to talk to the Appropriations committee of both the Senate and the House. K: Yes, but not this week. It's very important we don't have any of this this week, L: They are after me each day. K: Any time from next Tuesday on is okay. Slip it to Tuesday; it really is very important. L: You think it will be embarrassing to have the costs come out? K: To have a, debate start on it now, If you can hold off xaxx wait till Monday; by that time it will be a, lot clearer. I: On redeployments you mentioned and the P esident did to talk about mentations. We've got 150 aircraft on the way and 20 ships that haven't been announced but have orders. It might be well once in a while to put out a story on that. We are looking at two more F-4 squadrons for Thailand. That's very little, only 136 planes. We've got 119 we haven't announced and on B-52 we've gone from 55 to 139. K: We don't mind your putting out in the next few days some word if you don't make it too heavy. L: We've got two squadrons from Florida I believe we may need some others to rotate for those that are TDY now, K: Let me took talk to the President again on these two squadrons. Hold up until tomorrow. Lot me talk to him again. He said it should be done but this is a reasonable point of yours. Let me run it by him. You are thinking of rotation things? L: Yes, so we can keep air assets at a fairly high level in case we need them this summer. We may need some. I can't guarantee, but we may need some insurance. And I will keep costs till next week. K: And I will talk to the President about the two squadrons again. L: K: We slightly prefer tomorrow night but it's not a big thing.

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