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TELCON Mr. Kissinger/Sec. Laird 5/6/72 12:30 (Secure) ML: The orders hqve gone out and we are setting fuses and started the planning. HAK: We can call if off, if we want to, can't we? ML: You should give us by Sunday night because we are setting fuses on the ones we put in deep for six months. HAK: The orders should read that we won't stand by if ships try to sweep the mines. ML: They will knock the ships out by air, if that's what you mean. HAK: We will not have loitering operations, ML: We have to have air assets up there to do that and we are announcing the blockade as well as mining. If we are going to blockade and mine, I think the blockade we could let medical supplies and foodstuffs go in. We will be stopping everything with these mines --medical supplies or otherwise. We would have to knock out or attack any ships HAK: If they try to circumvent it. ML: You might just want to go for the blockade. The only ships coming in are the Russians--17 coming on the way. In port, there are 23 Russian ships. We know where they are HAK: The main thing is as this is down we are having mine sweeping and loitering. ML: You can't take these out with for six months. The floating mines if , put in Hanoi and Haiphong, they stay for six months. HAK: What about command thing. The President calle every five minutes. ML: I can give you a paper on why it 800 can't be done. He doesn't understand that if you put someone in Vietnam handling tanks, all ships everywhere - there are very few of our assets in Vietnam.

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