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The President/Mr. Kissinger
6:55 p. m., May 8, 1972
K:
Mr. President.
P:
The one thing I was wondering about which I assume has been
covered is that the peace offer has been cleared with Thieu.
K:
Not really. He'll have a few hours warning but there's nothing
in that peace offer that we haven't in some way offered before. It's
just
P:
I meant the ceasefire could be interpreted as one in place,
I suppose.
K:
But we are just leaving that vague. There are some parts of it
he won't immediately like but we've just got to do this.
P:
I
know; I know. Oh, I agree. I'm all for it, and if he doesn't
like it, that's too bad, huh.
K:
That's right. We had no choice.
P:
What other part wouldn't he like?
K:
That's the only part. The four-months withdrawal he won't like.
P:
But hell, that's after they
K:
But, Mr. President, if the North Vietnamese stop their offensive
under these circumstances, it is a smashing victory for us.
P:
Hell, yes. And it's the only thing that matters.
K:
Today he's got to worry about Kartum and Hue.
P:
Yeah; well, that's the way it is, and frankly, if under these
circumstances, he takes this wrong, then
K:
He can't take it wrong. We are saving his neck.
P:
Yeah. If it can be saved. The other thing is -- have you got
Helms going on a massive leaflets and all that stuff.
K:
Oh, yes. That's being done.
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