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5 Pres: You know our peacenik types will say Christ don't knock it down. I know got into this one time. He said the mines could be turned off. HAK: The beauty is that they can't be turned off. Pres: But you remember he did say that. HAK: I know he did. Pres: I think Laird has got to say that this is an inaccurate story. Why in the name of God to people to people put out this thing. What in the world do they think they are trying HAK: We have too many people with a vested interest in losing. The practical result of it is that if they have us in a position where you can turn them off and on then they can start tremendous protest demonstrations against us. The advantage of mining over bombing is that you don't have to make a new decision every day. And that's what they like to get you into. Then they can go to work on you. Pres: Turn off the mines, turn off the mines. HAK: At first it sounds soft, but after a while it will turn out to be a much harder thing. Pres: Well, do you want me to get Haldeman to aall Laird? HAK: No, I'll get Laird. I can handle it. Pres: What will you tell him ? HAK: I'11 tell him to knock it down immediately. Pres: Right. And about the Soviet merchant men, you just tell Dobrynin that Pres: Dobrynin knows better than that. But you'll set his mind to rest on it won't you. HAK: Absolutely. Pres: Just say that I'm sure that he knows that this is rédiculous,

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