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TELCON Page 2 HK: No, not before the end of the year, but within a reasonable time after the election. BT: You said a resonable time--would that be by the end of the year? HK: Not necessarily. I just hate to give deadlines. BT: Hm huh,hm huh. But there is no reason to change that--your evaluation of-. HK: Look, I mean strictly off-the-record, it's obvious we must be talking about something. BT: Absolutely. HK: You know. Amateurs say it is an election stunt and so forth; what interest do they have to participate in an election stunt? BT: Well, I know, this is the problem I have been having, in writing this stuff, that I am way out of step with everybody else. Because I do have a feeling-- HK: I am not saying going to get settled. It's a hell of a problem. BT: Hm huh. But there is no reason for them to cooperate in his reelection. HK: That's right and there is no point in our sitting there--you know we are not playing pinochle. BT: Do you feel they finished their reassessment when he came back and talked to you now? HK: Yeh, I think that is a reasonable thing to assume. BT: And does one have to assume that they have changed- one assume-- HK: That is the part I don't want to comment on. BT: All right. But one doesn't take as face value their private position and their public position being the same thing-- mean, that is the Viet Cong statement and the statement of September 2--does that represent their private position as well?

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