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Adm. Zumwalt/Mr. Kissinger
12:56 pm, October 2, 1972
K:
Hello!
Z:
Hello, Henry, Budx Zumwalt, How are you?
K:
Okay.
Z:
I'm calling you about the Oceanographic slips that are of the subject
of the Maritime Agreement. I don't know whether you know
K:
Yes, I'm aware of the issue
ZxxK:
Well, Now, the Soviets say if we can get them ;out of Navy jurisdiction
in some formal way, they'd agree to let them come it, and I was
wondering if klxex it's beyond the wit of man to devise a formu lae
by which you continue to operation them, but technically they're
under somebody's else's jurisdiction.
Z:
It's not bey ond the wit of man, the officious part of it is how we
work it out with the Congress. What it requires is the technical
finding in order for them to be restricted from one agency to another,
that they are no longer required, and this would then make it very,
very difficult to convince another branch of Congress that they
should subsequently be funded. And that's where we think the thing
founders.
and if it can't be done
K:
Will you take another look at it/practically, y ou know, we don't
want to lose ships. It doesn't do us any good to let them use ports
when the ships disappear.
Z:
That's right. I will take another look at it, Henry, now how do I
come back to you informally.
K:
Come back to me informally, and then we can decide how to put it
back in formal channels.
Z:
Fine.
K:
Id appreciate it.
Z:
End of today, or tomorrow?
K:
End of today would be helpful, or the first thing in the morning
would be good. In fact, I 11 be up at Camp David, SO the first
thing in the morning.
Z:
Fine.
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