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Joe Kraft/Mr. Kissinger
3:25 pm, October 5, 1972
JK:
Hello, Henry.
HK:
Joe, Sorry we --
JK:
No, it's my fault.
HK:
I thought you told me you were free till 5:00.
JK:
Well, I thought I was too and then my secretary made an appointment
for 4:30 and so I 11 miss it and hope I can see you next week. It's my
fault and I'm very sorry.
HK:
Yes, definitely. But I had to spend the morning with Haig.
JK:
Yeah. How is the outlook for him?
HK:
How is the outlook for what? Oh, as he sees it?
JK:
Yeah, for the road show.
HK:
For the -- (laughter) I appreciate the faith you all show. The one
thing people haven't explained yet is if this is a roadshow, why is
Le Duc Tho cooperating?
JK:
Well, you and I both canvass various possibilities. I mean, one the
Chinese-Russian possibility; another possibility is he doesn't know what
he's doing. I mean, if you look at what they did on the prisoners, you
are more and more tempted that they are just as bad as all other
governments.
HK:
Well, they're idiotic about our domestic opinion.
JK:
That's right. You know, they are not even consistent in their idiocy.
I mean, the way they handled our prisoners really is just shockingly
miserable as an operation.
HK:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JK:
Yeah, but look, my assumption is -- I know you don't waste his time
and I assume you are getting somewhere.
HK:
Well, that I'm not even claiming. I'm saying it's -- you know, we're
talking about serious subjects very seriously.
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