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-5- K: A show of willingness would be very helpful. D: But just a question of withdrawal K: It would be very helpful. D: But it is argued a show of willignesss in terms of divisions, because it is difficult from our side I am thinking about. K: You don't have to give them the numbers. D: So I leave it as it was. On a new question you are tied up with this new thing and I thought you preferred to discuss even without this side of it. K: Without the prior agreement. D: It would make it too difficult, otherwise you could be in a deadlock. K: Well, if we are in a deadlock that's not the worse thing that can happen to us. D: Well some kind of things are relevant since we are going deeper into other things (laughs] This is the point. K: We take your views very seriously, but. D: That's what you really listen to. K: But we have made absolutely the maximum concessions that's possible to make. D: No, no, I am not arguing with you, but I simply tried to make it clear our point of view and then I would like to be ready more what you are really up to. K: What we are up to without any withdrawal on their side we are willing to make a big effort in Saigon, but I am not very optimistic. With some withdrawals on their side we can make a bigger effort and we can have bigger numbers released right away. D: I understand. K: That is a fact of life.

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