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TELCON
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Amb. Dobrynin/Mr. Kissinger
11:22 p.m., October 23, 1972
K:
They don't understand the American domestic situation at all.
D:
Yeah.
K:
If I had wanted to protract the negotiations, I could have easily
protracted them without this theater.
D:
Without?
K:
Without going through all this exercise.
D:
I understand.
K:
Because I could have just haggled over every paragraph for weeks.
D:
Yeah, I understand.
K:
So what we wanted to do is to settle it.
D:
Yeah.
K:
On the other hand, what we cannot do is to have a public confrontation
with the South Vietnamese in the last two weeks of the elections and
be accused of everyone of undermining the people for whom we've been
fighting for 4 years. Now that is a fact of life.
D:
Yes.
K:
Therefore if Hanoi forces us to choose between a confrontation with
South Vietnam and a confrontation with North Vietnam, we will
unhesitatingly choose a confrontation with North Vietnam because that's
what we've been having.
D:
Yeah.
K:
Now I have made a serious effort.
D:
Yes.
K:
And there have been certain difficulties which I will discuss with you
tomorrow.
D:
Yes.
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