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TELCON
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Jay Lovestone/Mr. Kissinger
7:10 p.m., October 27, 1972
K:
(cont'd) Communist cadres that Thieu has in jail stay in jail because under
the provisions of the --
L:
They're not being released; there's no general political release or amnesty?
K:
No, only military POWs are released. So , you know, I don't think that
the VC are in extremely high morale right now.
L:
No, you see the argument of McGovern "could have had it 4 years ago" is
a fraud.
K:
McGovern -- What did McGovern propose? That we would pull our forces
L:
That's right No, we run out.
K:
That we run out and then hope they'll give us something. But we'll cut off
economic aid here, we have unlimited economic aid --
L:
Yeah. No, no; there's no question on it. I think Goldwater hit him pretty
well but much more can be said to refute that argument.
K:
And we have almost unlimited military aid.
L:
Yeah.
unlimited
K:
And we can keep economic advisors there. And 50 military attaches'.
L:
Yeah. Let me make a suggestion, the moment I get in Tuesday --
K:
Call me and
L:
At your office.
K:
Look, I'll save time around 3:00.
L:
Fine. Suppose I set it for that.
K:
Good.
L:
Fine. I'll be over to your place at 3:00.
K:
Good, Jay.
L:
Will you note it, please.
K:
Good.
L:
Bye, bye.
wgh
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