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2 K: Well, of course they can violate it. In that case, adding one more provision that's going to be violated doesn't help any. MK: But, how would you explain the problem of not getting the South on board if the question of withdrawal is not really the key? K: I think the real problem is the psychological problem of their suddenly being left by themselves. You know, an attempt has been entirely different from what they'v gotten use to over 12 years. MK: That's right. K: I think that's at the heart of the problem, but that cannot be allowed. MK: That's one of the things I remember you saying is that one of the most difficult things would be to persuade them that they can exist without it. K: That's right. That's the key to the problem. I mean I think that is the essence much more than any particular provision because if it weren't one there'd be another that is objected to. MK: Right. Henry, are you likely to try and initial anything next week. K: No, no. MK: And you are still planning to go to Saigon, aren't you. K: There are good signs of it. MK: Yeah. Listen Collingwood is going to be in Paris next week and I think he's going to take the liberty of calling you. I'm just alerting you. K: Good. MK: Good. K: Good, Marvin, and I'll call you when I get back. MK: Good luck, Henry. K: Thank you, bye. MK:: Bye.

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