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Huh?
15
K:
It wouldn't be seen now until the 20th.
P:
Oh, no, no, no. I'm just thinking of stopping all American bombing
activities in South Vietnam, not in
K:
It s almost impossible to start them again and if these guys then seize
half the country in a sudden attack -- I just don't see the risk to the whole
P:
No, I'm not thinking of the effect on the North, Henry, and on the effect
on the Americans. I'm thinking of the effect on Thieu.
K:
Well, he hasn't turned it down yet, Mr. President. We could do that
after the 20th if he turns it down.
P:
You see that's what I would do. After the 20th just as a signal, say: Now,
all right, fine, off.
K:
What I would then recommend, if he turns it down, Mr. President, is for
us to initial the agreement and then right away to stop. The only thing is
if we stop everything, then to get this special agreement with the North
is going to be very tough. Those sons-of-bitches are just as mean as he
is.
P:
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
K:
If we stop everything that hurts them, they are just not going to give it.
P:
Yeah. In other words, the point is we've got to have something going on
that they want to get rid of.
K:
Exactly.
in return
P:
So we'll say all right, we'll give up all this for our prisoners and so forth.
K:
Exactly.
P:
And then you are confident you haven't discussed that with Le Duc Tho,
you haven't gone that route?
the
K:
No, I haven't made a proposition to him because I didn't want /
proposition
to be one that he found so attractive that he dd scrap this one.
P:
Right.
K:
So I have told him if after our best efforts, we can't get their agreement,
then we will initial this agreement and then we'll have to discuss what
to do.
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