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Amb. Dobrynin
January 24, 1973; 5:49 p.m.
D: Hello, Henry, what you are doing.
K: What do you mean, what am I doing?
D: Yes, now, I thought after your press conference to present your
case, you were almost telling the newsmen that you won all the points.
[Laughter]
K: At least I told them the President
D: I was preparing to send a telegram for the
,
but now I
will look through the agreement once again and all the protocols, well,
you just don't know
But it was really a masterful
presentation. That is my opinion. And just today on the sad occasion
of the passing of President Johnson. As it was all my colleagues and
all of them
But it was unanimous verdict that it was a
masterful presentation.
K: Well I appreciate that.
D: Well, my colleagues were unanimous that you were superb. This is
the point.
K: Well I think it was in fact 50-50.
D: Well, this was my impression. Fifty-fifty depends on what kind of
. but
I stressed the points
K:/ We gained. I didn't stress the points we conceded.
D: I'm sure it was in the presentation . At least I heard it from
from Hanoi, that information and how presented to the Ambassadors
from the socialist countries. Because I couldn't find where they lost,
really. Everything gained.
[laughter]
There were not any details in your information about just in general
terms, but you sometimes give communication process.
K: Well that makes for a good agreement. [laughter] I have no illusions.
D: I understand.
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