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Amb. Dobrynin/Mr. Kissinger
6:30 p. m., January 25, 1973
D:
Hello.
K:
All I hope is that she's beautiful.
D:
(Laughter) She is, definitely.
K:
Okay. Is it true that you're going to dinner at Henry Brandon's tonight?
D:
No, I'm not going. No, on this I am positive. Definite. I don't know about
you but for myself I could
K:
No, I turned down a dinner invitation tonight.
D:
Well, I definitely will not be there. Well, where do we stand on this
difficult question?
K:
All right. On MBFR, let me tell you what we will do. First, in your
reply, you insist on Vienna. You know, in a nice way.
D:
Yeah.
K:
The United States will support you.
D:
Yes.
K:
Secondly, on membership. We think the easiest solution would be the
following, although that's essentially what I already told you at lunch.
If you would accept our participants and if you would propose Romania
and Bulgaria as observers, then we would agree at the Conference. If
you want to exclude Hungary from the working group, we will agree with
you.
D:
No, no; it's not quite clear. Because as of now, it's not really question
about -- really we don't specifically worry about Hungary, Romania,
Bulgaria. Really, it is not a problem for us. Because we discussed it
with our allies and we could handle it in one way or another. So the
question really I would like a more clearer of your position. Well, there
was a proposal originally --
K:
You see, the problem with us is if we exclude these southern countries
now, I just can't imagine how we're going to handle it.
D:
This was a proposal you can invite all of them.
K:
But we don't want to invite the neutrals.
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