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Secretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger
10:45 a. m., February 27, 1973
K:
Hello, Bill. I've just been talking to Bill Sullivan --
R:
I know that. I'd appreciate it if you'd speak to me.
K:
Okay, I just thought he could transmit it more easily.
R:
Yeah. I have serious reservation about making any statement about
cancelling the Conference.
K:
He didn't say -- There's no issue of cancelling the Conference.
R:
Well, maybe I didn't get the signals straight then.
K:
Oh, no. What he said is -- What he's going to say is that he's asking
you to demand clarification.
R:
Yes, I understand.
K:
And to conduct no other business until you've received that clarification.
R:
Well, on that one, why don't we just say the first until -- I mean, if we
start saying things like that, we're going to have the other governments
just say to go to hell. They're not too happy about it anyway. It seems to
me I ought to be able to have the opportunity to talk to the other side.
Honest. And then if it's unsatisfactory, then start making threats.
But you'll find that some of the other parties are fed up anyway with the
whole idea of the Conference and they'll just say well, you fellows have it,
we're going home.
You follow me?
K:
Yeah. Let me raise it with the President.
R:
It seems to me you can say the same thing and the same sense of urgency
without the threat. I'd rather not on the phone go into the details but
you'll find that a couple of these governments will just leave. If we start
saying that without checking with them, they will just - -
K:
Well, I would doubt that but still you --
R:
I'm here, I can tell you that. I just had two conversations I don't want
to go into it on the phone but I know that's what the situation is.
K:
Okay. Let me check it with the President right away.
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