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No, because of the --
K:
But I think
P:
That ought to shake them even more.
K:
I think they are not going to shake us down on this. Or try to face
us, because they know--
P:
It's not the right time.
K:
The internation conference going on, the Chinese and Russians
aren't going to jeopardize their relations with us. No one else
is going to back them at that conference, and not only this, they
know if you stated clobbering them again, you'd have the American
people with you on this. If this were the issue.
P:
Right, you see we've always realized as I --in December, you know,
if we could have made the POW the issue I could have gone on
television, but we couldn t. It's partly the issue. But right now
if it's on the POWs and I say I'll bomb them, we are going to bomb
them until we get the POWs, by God the people would back you all
athe way.
K:
And if you played all the strings and said after the stories that the
returning prisoners told you about conditions in prison camps, you
will not permit them to stay there one extra day, that you will
--but I don't think it's going to come anywhere close to that.
P:
agree. But these things must be going through their minds.
K:
Exactly.
P:
They were certainly going through the mind of somebody as clever
as Gromyko, and people like that. Chou En-lai would understand that.
K:q
That's right.
P:
In fact
K:
We may even consider gutting the Rüssians involved on our private
channel, if it keeps going through tomorrow. I don't know if Rogers
will do it toughly enough.
P:
My view tomorrow is that if it doesn't break, I will not go on the press
thing.
K:
agree.
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