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6:32 p.m., February 28, 1973
R:
(cont'd) to the 25%. It would hurt us there very seriously because I
knew that would not appeal to her. But I did mention that all of our
people felt that our vote against it also would probably result in very
action by the Libyans against our installations in Libya and
possibly attacks on our aircraft. But she felt quite emotional about it
and obviously had not been briefed at all by her people on it. They just
told her about it. Now the interesting thing is, Henry, when she came
in, we went to my office and had a very pleasant discussion about -- I told
her all about our talks with Ismail and also with Hussein. We then threw
the lunch. Rabin whenever Mrs. Meir was talking, both before we went
into lunch and afterward, he kept saying this is a business lunch. He
would shuffle his papers and look at his watch when she was talking, you
know she likes to talk, and he would interrupt her at one point after
another. We took up the production of planes, the supply of planes, the
Iraqi treatment of Jews and to what degree could we help and the exit
tax and the entire problem with regard to Russia. All in all, this went
along very well. We had very nice toasts. They grasped it well and then
she just brought up this. Up to that time she showed no -- she knew all
about it all the time. It wasn't something she just learned. She knew it
when she came in.
K:
Well, I thought I would hear something from her during the day. When
I didn't, I thought it was all worked out.
R:
Well, we thought it was too.
K:
Well, okay. Don't let's worry about it, it's done.
R:
I don't know what else we could have done really, Henry.
K:
Yeah. I don't know either. Look, Cromer called me and said that
Rumsfeld was as anesthetic today as ever.
R:
Well, he was not supposed to have been.
I'm sending a cable out
tonight, which your office is resisting and I told them if they did resist
it, for you to call me. Sending a cable out telling them that our big
problem has been that we wanted to avoid a stalemate, which we felt
sure we would lose with the Russians, and if we turned it into a publicity
item which we are sure to have to give way, it would mean of course
that we enter the negotiations looking over-anxious and weak. This
procedural thing -- this should be treated as a procedural thing, although
we do know it's substantive, of course, and not be turned into a big issue.
But now it turns out, we say in the cable, that instead our allies are
misinterpreting this somewhat and feeling that we are bringing pressure
to bear on them and that this we do not want to do and we're not going to
make any more demarches in capitals for the time being. We will take
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