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Hank Trewhitt/Mr. Kissinger 3 K: In that case, I can tell you it's a flat lie. T: Is it? K: Yes. The only time Ive ever said anything remotely like it was at a party at Claire Luce's house where I was asked to give a toast about Chinese-American relations and I said it's an interesting experience for us because they are very theoretical and we're very pragmatic. But that isn't exactly the point. T: No. K: Of the quote. T: I can't really explain it then because given the source I don't really know just how it developed but I thought it was probably botched up in the business of K: No, no, no. If it's from that country, it was never said. T: Yeah. K: OK ay, good. T: Okay. Give me some guidance on how to treat the Thieu trip. Cosmetic for substance? K: I think it will be both. T: More of the former? There will be no dramatic developments out of it obviously. K: No. T: But you obviously will have substance involved in terms of -- K: No, we'll have major substance to discuss -- you know, the future evolution of Vietnam. It's in an entirely new phase now. It's the first time that there are no American forces there at all in ten years. T: You'll be checking the whole relationship K: The important -- To restructure the relationship on the economic level. So I really think it's an important meeting. T: Will there be a Communique going out? K: Yes.

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