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TELCON Mr. Kissinger/Ron Ziegler 4/9/73 10:40 a.m. HK: Ron RZ: Hi, Henry. HK: I notice you don't use the royal "we" anymore. In the news summary, they--wasn't there an article by Jackman yesterday? RZ: What did he say, Ididn't see that. HK: That you were taking on Irwin in your own name, now. RZ: Oh and he cut me up for that. Huh. HK: Yeh. But that isn't why I am calling you. RZ: Do you think that's bad? HK: No - - if you become more visible, you are going to get some attacks, you are getting surprisingly few attacks. I never got a look at that report, and now I see that Raza led with it yesterday. I didn't realize it was for a quotation. RZ: Huh um. Speaking about the outer limits? HK: I mean it is not a world shaking event. RZ: No, no problem. HK: Okay. RZ: Anything else going on. HK: No, ah, Haig is taking over in Cambodia. RZ: (laughing) Haig's taking over the government. HK: He suppressed Lon No1. RZ: He's higher rank than Lon No1 HK: We want a white rule in one of these countries. RZ: Right. HK: What do you hear from Dianne? RZ: Nothing.

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