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    "ocrText": "Ambassador Dobrynin - 4:45 p.m., May 1, 1973\n3\nD:\nYes. And at same time with understanding that we discuss the\n[central ? ] and other questions. This would be -- Well, more or\nless simultaneously but not prejudged already now. The [central ?\nshould be a first one?\nK:\nWell, prejudged to the degree that\nan understanding or\nan agreement that there will be no circumvention. Not an agreement\nthat we will actually go into them in detail.\nD:\nNo, I understand. But through the principles of simultaneous\ndiscussion really because it should be. I understand the principles\nof circumvention is clear. But now the question is how they going\nthen?\nthe situation will be\n, what they\ngoing to do?\nK:\nWhat they will do?\nD:\nYes. Because your delegation which will then discuss all this\n[equitable ? ] limitations a little later on. And\nwill say:\nNow, let's discuss it. Just to give them a chance to -- I don't know -\nof procedures that will not force them to discuss. Because\nup till now -- I read very carefully all the statements made by\nJohnson. He is just saying: Look here, we are not going to discuss\nanything until we have agreement on this one. Later on I prepared\nto discuss. This was his position. That's why I just asking you the\nquestion because Gromyko will ask me. Does it look bad putting it\nthis way or not?\nK:\nNo, we are willing to put into the agreement something that says\nit cannot be circumvented through other means.\nD:\nYeah, I understand. What does it mean?\nK:\nWhat it means is\nD:\nIn concrete, because when they will discuss equitable -- Or, you\nmean you just want to have this in the principle to persuade without\n[presenting ? ] anything?\nK:\nWe'd like to have it as a principle.\nD:\nYeah, as a principle. But when we will discuss, it's open in what\nway and how they will discuss.\nK:\nThat's right."
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