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different. And they are that our concept that a peace observer
has not been accepted and it is better in the interests of all concerned the
if we withdraw. There is no criticism in our statement at all--I drafted
personally yesterday, and it commends the peace agreement, hopes that
your discussions with Le Duc Tho will be successful, that this is not a
role that W e can fulfill.
HK:
Hm huh. Well, if you have made your decision there is not point discuss
debating it. We deplore it greatly and think it couldn't have come at a
more unfortunate time.
MS:
Well, I don't think it really makes very much difference, and if I may say
Dr. Kissinger, the ICCS has not contributed in any particular way to the
success of the peace agreement that the ICCS shound not be there and in
fact it might even have been better because all that has happened is that
the debate has been extended into the ICCS, between the communist and
noncommunist countries, not on the basis which we entered.
HK:
That is all theoretically true, but it is a part of the agreement, it's
inevitably now going to be injected into the next round of discussions
and adds an additional complication to something that's difficult enough
as it is and while the ICCS has not been working well, the impact now of
this move is certainly not going to be helpful, but there is no point
debating a decision that has already been made.
MS:
Yes, we looked at it--I talked to the Prime Minister again yesterday in
the light of your announcement and he didn't think it made any difference
our concern has been in our annuuncements of a decision that it would
do the minimum of damage to the peace agreement, because we have an
interest in its success too. I had been--as I say, I personally drafted
a statement yesterday because I wanted to be sure that we would put the
thing in the right light, and there is no recrimination and no bitterness
and no criticism.
HK:
Yeh, but that isn't the point, xxxxxxxxxx we are dealing with now.
That
just
isn't a problem, I mean, I'm not concerned with whether the agreement
as such is being criticized, I'm concerned with the possibility of improve
ing the agreement and adding yet another element of negotiation toi what
is complex enough without it. That is the question.
MS:
Well, We are quite flexible on the time we get out, that is, we have said
we will give thirty days, but if you would like us to say we would give
60 days, that doesn't make any difference to us. If that would help, I'd
be very happy to do that, but the announcement I think has to be made.
We really have no alternative now.
HK:
Well, all right, in that case 60 days would certainly give us more time.
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