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TELCON (San Clemente)
George Sherman/Kissinger
4:22 p.m. - 6/29/73
K:
Hello.
S:
Dr. Kissinger. I wondered did you see this item on the wire today
from Hanoi about (They were cut off at this point and the call was
replaced
K:
Hello.
S:
I'm not being lucky today.
K:
Well, I just hung up when you mentioned Hanoi. When you want to
talk to me about enemies I don't want to listen to you.
S:
You have your own enemies list, do you?
K:
You should see - the trouble is about a third of these enemies are
personal friends of mine and I'm in their houses.
S:
Are you getting the message?
K:
Where does that leave me?
S:
Exactly. I'm waiting for the real list to come out. Listen, Henry
K:
All I want you to know Sherman is be careful because I may put you on
a list. There are some lists around that haven't surfaced yet.
S:
That's the greatest status symbol going in Washington you realize.
Mary McGrory's floating on a cloud.
K:
I didn't ever think Mary McGrory was an enemy. (Laughs) She's
even on my enemy list.
S:
Oh, your enemy list. Anyway this is a story from the Argente French
Press which for the first time says that Sihanouk and Company or they
say Drunc of Sihanouk is willing to negotiate on a coalition government
including not Lon Nol but neutralists.
K:
George, I can't go into details but I've been trying to tell you and anyone
who would listen for a month, that we think there is a chance if Congress
doesn't now knock all the props out from under us.
S:
In other words, you put some store in this report?
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