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TELCON (San Clemente)
Irving Lazar/Kissinger
12:48 p. m. - 7/2/73
K:
Hello.
L:
Hello.
K:
Irving.
L:
Yes, how are you sir?
K:
OK. I just wanted to ask you one question. Since after these hearings
are over I11 want to make some decisions.
L:
You want to make a decision?
K:
I have to consider my situation. And I wondered from your knowledge
of the situation, do you think that the sort of thing we were talking about
is still feasible in the same range?
L:
Just a little better, that's all.
K:
Better?
L:
Yeh, I was conservative from the beginning as ususally am in order
not to be in a position of embarrassment. I can only tell you it's the
same if not better - your position is the same if not better than it ever
was. No question about it. I have never told you as much as I could
have because you didn't want to hear it which is fine. But I can only
tell you that from my analysis and also from my rather conservative
and most delicate inquiry in just listening and not talking, it is my
conviction that everything I told you is absolutely the case and not better.
K:
Despite Watergate?
L:
Oh, Watergate has nothing to do with it. If anything it enhances the
potential of the enterprise many fold because of reasons I'11 discuss
with you when I see you.
K:
Well, it makes it easier to write because one of the things I always said
to you was I didn't know how to express my views.
(Con't. )
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