Ask the Scholar

Page 13 of 95
I can add historical knowledge about this page.

Page image

Page 13

OCR

TELCON Sen. Symington/Kissinger 12:20 p.m. - 7/23/73 K: Hello. S: Henry. K: Stuart, how are you? S: Good morning to you. I'm pretty good. I've got a bit of a problem. Give me credit I don't bother you much. K: I know that. De RouleT S: Down in Jamaica was a fellow named Pege DcRoullie (sp His wife is my goddaughter and a lovely girl and she is a niece of Jock Whitney. This guy is a tense fellow and he's able. K: I know him. S: What he did was he testified over here, as I get the story, and he was against Opik I am too. OPIC K: Oh, that's Jack Javits'. S: That's his baby, but nobody guaranteed me anything when I was trying to run my businesses in this country. Well, they got half a billion dollars, I am told by counsel over there, and he asked that he not be questioned about this in open session. He asked Church. In addition to that K: Over where ? S: Over in the ITT multinational corporation hearings which I have not been at because of Armed Services. So he thought that Church had agreed to that and then Church did ask him in an open hearing without me being around and he answered some questions which he should not have done. But in this case he thought he was in good shape. He saw a Mr. Jones in the White House and I think he was expecting to go to another post. Mr. Jones called him in New York and - he was staying with his mother-in-law Joan Payson, who is my wife's first cousin incidentally. Mr. Jones said that Mr. Manley that fellow down in Jamaica didn't want him back. Then I got the impression from De Roul that he also said this sort of clears you for anything else. I don't think that's fair if he served four years down there.

Page data

Page
13
Source index
0
Type
photo
Media ID
9c411b75c6b1e028
Size
unknown

Document data

ID
498693991
Core
doc
Type
document
DTO data
{
    "id": "498693991",
    "sourceUrl": "https://catalog.archives.gov/id/498693991",
    "contentType": "document",
    "title": "July 21-31, 1973",
    "citationUrl": "https://catalog.archives.gov/id/498693991",
    "collections": [
        "National Security Files (Nixon Administration)",
        "Henry A. Kissinger Telephone Conversation Transcripts (Telcons)"
    ],
    "iiifBase": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-001.jpg",
    "thumbnailUrl": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-001.jpg",
    "largeImageUrl": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-001.jpg",
    "imageCount": 95,
    "hasImages": true,
    "source": "import",
    "hasTranscription": false
}

Context sent to Scholar

Document identity
{
    "localId": "498693991",
    "label": "July 21-31, 1973",
    "core": "doc",
    "dtoType": "document",
    "citationUrl": "https://catalog.archives.gov/id/498693991"
}
Document source metadata
{
    "id": "498693991",
    "sourceUrl": "https://catalog.archives.gov/id/498693991",
    "contentType": "document",
    "title": "July 21-31, 1973",
    "citationUrl": "https://catalog.archives.gov/id/498693991",
    "collections": [
        "National Security Files (Nixon Administration)",
        "Henry A. Kissinger Telephone Conversation Transcripts (Telcons)"
    ],
    "iiifBase": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-001.jpg",
    "thumbnailUrl": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-001.jpg",
    "largeImageUrl": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-001.jpg",
    "imageCount": 95,
    "hasImages": true,
    "source": "import",
    "hasTranscription": false
}
Document source extras
{
    "url": "https://catalog.archives.gov/id/498693991",
    "naId": 498693991,
    "levelOfDescription": "fileUnit",
    "recordType": "description",
    "ocrSource": "nara-archive"
}
Page context
{
    "seq": 13,
    "pageIndex": 0,
    "type": "photo",
    "url": "https://s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorage/lz/presidential-libraries/nixon/rn-nsf/579113/Batch0002/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04/37-natsec-kissinger_telcons-579113-21-04-013.jpg",
    "mediaId": "9c411b75c6b1e028",
    "ocrText": "TELCON\nSen. Symington/Kissinger\n12:20 p.m. - 7/23/73\nK:\nHello.\nS:\nHenry.\nK:\nStuart, how are you?\nS:\nGood morning to you. I'm pretty good. I've got a bit of a problem.\nGive me credit I don't bother you much.\nK:\nI know that.\nDe RouleT\nS:\nDown in Jamaica was a fellow named Pege DcRoullie (sp His wife\nis my goddaughter and a lovely girl and she is a niece of Jock Whitney.\nThis guy is a tense fellow and he's able.\nK:\nI know him.\nS:\nWhat he did was he testified over here, as I get the story, and he\nwas against Opik I am\ntoo.\nOPIC\nK:\nOh, that's Jack Javits'.\nS:\nThat's his baby, but nobody guaranteed me anything when I was trying\nto run my businesses in this country. Well, they got half a billion\ndollars, I am told by counsel over there, and he asked that he not\nbe\nquestioned about this in open session. He asked Church. In addition\nto that\nK:\nOver where ?\nS:\nOver in the ITT multinational corporation hearings which I have not\nbeen at because of Armed Services. So he thought that Church had\nagreed to that and then Church did ask him in an open hearing without\nme being around and he answered some questions which he should\nnot have done. But in this case he thought he was in good shape.\nHe saw a Mr. Jones in the White House and I think he was expecting\nto go to another post. Mr. Jones called him in New York and - he\nwas staying with his mother-in-law Joan Payson, who is my wife's\nfirst cousin incidentally. Mr. Jones said that Mr. Manley that fellow\ndown in Jamaica didn't want him back. Then I got the impression from\nDe\nRoul\nthat he also said this sort of clears you for anything else.\nI don't think that's fair if he served four years down there."
}