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Bernard Gwertzman/HAK
July 31, 1973; 9:50 a. m.
K:
I just wanted
not a major point
but since the folklore tends
to get established in Washington I wanted to get the record straight
on the Australian visit. This was not something imposed on the
White House either by Whitlam announcing he was coming, much
less by the State Department insisting on it. What happened was
that his Assistant Walinsky was here on May 2 and we told him then
that the President would see Whitlam when Whitlam came to the
Prime Ministers conference in Ottawa, and that we would
work out the date either just before or just after that conference,
and Walinsky gave us three sets of dates and it was at the Australian
request that it wasn't announced until it was announced early in July.
There was no intervention on the part of the State Department
whatsoever. We agreed on it May 2. The future of this Adminis-
tration doesn't depend on whether the State Department arranges the
Whitlam visit.
G:
I should have anticipated that.
K:
I would be glad to play my tape for you. (laughter)
G:
Did you get Clifton Daniels' letter?
K:
Yes, I did. I am considering it, particularly if I don't have to do it
on the record.
G:
The genesis of that letter was that the editors saw you were on the
record with the news magazines and said XXN we have never had the
good Doctor on the record in the New York Times.
K:
The Newsweek one you should ask Mel Elfin about.
G:
Was it then his
?
K:
More a
,
but it was never intended that way.
G:
Conspiratorial minds thought you were loosing a campaign.
K:
Hugh Sidey was calling me about something and he talked to me and said,
gee, I want to write this andI agreed with him provided he made clear that
he had the interview, which he did not do. Anyway I thought it was a
backgrounder on the Year of Europe. Ask Mel Elfin. It was one of the
unhappy experiences I have had with journalistic efforts. It wasn't a
campaign.
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