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-2- K: On Zonecki. H: Yeah. He says he is one of the top staff men he's ever seen at the Capitol. Apparently, competence-wise he's all right, but I think you do have the problem that, the central problem is that Congress fears the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. K: Yeah. H: And then, I guess that needs to be very closely a governing consideration. He is almost a Senate specialist and would take the House more or less for granted, but would work as well with them as you can, having to concentrate on the Senate, I guess. And that leads you to a Senate specialist, which leads you, in effect, to a guy like BeLieu, a guy like Korologos - who's a specialist. But you don't want either one of them much. K: No, I might change my mind. H: Well, you might be driven to by this difficulty. OK, we'll wait briefly on Dave, huh? K: Right. And any suggestions he might have. H: Does he have other thoughts? K: No. But he said he'd call me today if he has any. He thought that we could still get Spong if we ask Tower to call Scott. H: Well, I'd be willing to bet on that. K: Well, and I don't think we should in any case start lobbying and get knocked off again. he said, H: But,/I don't really have a serious problem with Spong, you understand, Bryce. He said that ironically. He said, after all, all he said was that I was a nobody and stupid, and he said I really therefore don't have any reason to be sensitive to his appointment. K: Yeah. He said, H: / You can see the effect of that in Virginia. K: Yeah, well, I think we then have to go ahead and look for an alternative. H: They think John Tower is for it, I take it. K: Yeah.

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