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-3- H: I don't think John can persuade him on that. K: Well, I don't think I should do it. H: I think you'd better brave your conservative buddies. K: Well, Ok, I don't think you should do it. I don't think the White House should start bringing pressure on Bill Scott for this, do you? H: Well, I don't like it much from that point of view. It seems to me like it starts you off with a pretty serious abrasion. K: Yeah. H: If it can be avoided, and we'll try to avoid it. K: OK, good. Many thanks, Bryce.

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