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    "ocrText": "TELCON\nSecretary Schesinger - Secretary Kissinger\nOctober 7, 1973\n1:30 p. m.\nK: I have been talking to the President all morning on where we stand.\nWe have had another very urgent request from the Israelis for some\nammunition and various items from that list, including 40 Phantoms\nwhich of course is out of the question, but the President's inclination\nis that if the Israelis will be able to piek it up, to give them some\nother stuff, laying claim for diplomatic\nS: They are most interested in sidewinders at the moment, Henry.\nK: Do you think you could handle it at defense SO that it doesn't\nleak?\nS: I think we can do it.\nK: We did it in '67.\nS: They have indicated they would pick it up, and not have to get\nour transport involved.\nK: Could you let me know by the time of the WSAG?\nS: Yes, sir.\nK: Perhaps you could go through the list of things you think we\ncould give them.\nS: Sidewinders are what they are most interested in now, in fact\nthey are sort of quietly desperate about that.\nK: They have made three separate appeals to the President now.\nThey say their losses have been very heavy.\nS: Well, their aircraft losses have been substantial because of the\nSAMS. There is something very peculiar about the Egyptian front.\nThey seem to want Egypt to come in.\nEgyptians didn't move their\nforces heavily across the Canal last night. The Israelis seem to be\nlying back. The forces they moved across were relatively small.\nThe Syrian front is much more problematical. In both cases they\nmay be\nsubtle game of attempting this time to show they really\nare vulnerable in view of the feeling around the world that they are\njust bullies."
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