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Dinitz/Kissinger
October 26, 1973
8:45 p. m.
K. Mr. Ambassador, this is a call not as Secretary but as a friend.
D. I understand.
K. We are going to get a hot line message within an hour. I just
wanted to tell you it is my honest judgment if you don't move in some
direction to get serious mention on the enclave you will lose everything.
D. Maybe I don't know what your suggestion is.
K. My suggestion this morning was to offer some time
You should
know once the President is involved he will order that we should
join the others because we have nothing to hold on to. It is water
over the dam at this point.
D. The supply business? That is what you mean?
K. The supply business or something else Israeli ingenuity could
produce. His suggestion is a negotiation.
D. I told you that is what we intended to offer them.
K. You told me it might be. I didn't know you wanted us to pass it
on to them.
D. We don't want to reveal all of the cards. Maybe I didn't make
myself very clear. I did not mean for you to withhold it from them.
K. That would be considered humiliating and it's just as well. I
know what you are trying to do. Maybe you should play it your way
for awhile and they may buy it.
D. We have a mutual friend and he just called me on the direct line
and he said something that I wasn't going to tell you. But since you
called, he said tell my friend, Henry, that if Golda Mier or any
other government opens this route he will not survive 24 hours in
Israel. I didn't
K. The tragedy is that my judgment is that Israel will lose everything
on this route but it is better for them to be raped and forced than to
make it as a decision.
D. In this embassy we have three girls who lost either a brother or
a cousin in this fighting. This is an example of what it has done to
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