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Secretary Kissinger
Secretary-General Waldheim
11/21/73; 9:05 a. m.
(Missed the first part)
W: I hope you are not too tired.
K: No.
W: I know what such a trip does -- means. Dr. Kissinger, I have tried
to keep you informed through my last letter but of course there are a number
of developments which I think are important. As far as Syria is concerned,
the things are not going too well. The D Guyia
mission
he is back
now -- did not really produce a breakthrough. They insist-he had a long
talk with President Asad. They insist on the return to the 5th of October
lines and a return of the 15,000 civilians. They would then exchange the
prisoners. Send back those Israeli prisoners. But there is one
of hope. That is that they are negative on some sort of meetings. Perhaps
even military meetings following the example on the Egyptian front. I don't
know what that will produce. Unfortunately the Ambassador here is not --
I don't have the impression that he is really authorized to have negotiations
on
this subject. But both sides Mrs. Meir and President Assad insisted
heavily on continuing to talk, especially Assad. Mrs. Meir they appreciate
the fact that I send Guyia there and that we are trying to be helpful and
repeatedly insisted to continue to talk. So I do not exclude that something
will finally come out. So I thought I should let you know this.
K: Well, I appreciate this. I understand that you and I are going to get
together in the next few days.
W: Well, I suggested that. I would be very happy to see you and to discuss
more in detail the situation but I haven't got any information from your
office when you would suggest that I come for insistence to Washington -- if it
is easier for you or whether it is when you are here in New York. I leave
it to you. You are very busy now and I can imagine it is not too easy for
you to come.
K: No, I approvexit yesterday.
W : Oh, I didn't know.
K: And I am sure we will be working it out within the next day.
W: Oh, very good. So I will get then the information from your Mission here.
K: Absolutely.
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