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Dean Rusk/Secretary Kissinger
January 6, 1974
12:45 PM
K: The President said he was going to call you back and he thought I
was going to call you. It was decided that your view was probably the
right one and not ask you to serve.
R: I got that view more strongly since there's a chance I'll be called as
a witness.
K: I'm trying to keep the investigation confined to allegations of domestic
spying. That would have presented no problem.
R: That's bound to get to me.
K:
Then it will get into areas -- it isn't a question legality, it's how much
of the thing they'11 pull out.
&
R: You mentioned something immoral. Can you tell me what you referred
to.
K: Some claims I made about Dominican Republic and attempts on Castro.
R: There's xdox no problem as far as I'm concerned. I explained a
political assassination was contrary to the policy of the U.S.
K: I happen to believe it's against national interest. First to investigate
matters like this, I think we won't have an intelligence agency left.
R: Some things should not be confused. The Director of the CIA
chairman of an intelligence committee and that included the FBI. I used
to get every morning a whole series of rap ups. I have no doubt that some
came out of the FBI material.
K: Some of the domestic files from CIA anxx are FBI reports.
R: You have a good many in the State Department files on State Department
people. I think it's unwise from the Presidentis point of view to have me
on . I'm certainly going to be a witness and it's better not to have one of
the witnesses who might be pummeled very hard by the Congress to members
of the panel.
K: That was our view. I still would like to get you together with the
President.
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