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D:
I don't fight you at all.
K:
No, no; don't get your Cabinet into the mood --
D:
I
K:
No, you won't. But tell your Cabinet not to get itself into the mood
that if I come out there, it will concern the prisoners.
D:
No, of course not.
K:
If I come out there, it will concern Syrian-Israeli disengagement.
D:
That is precisely SO. And that would even please the Prime Minister
more. Because, as you know, She didn't want to tie the two scenarios.
because She thought that it is not good to do it. So, if, as I said, if our
plan is accepted -- let's put it this way, you have in your hand the list
of prisoners they promised for the visit which will start being executed
before there is any dealings with the Syrians, either by us or by you,
that could automatically. And then we can publicize it SO the papers
would not attack or would not connect your visit with the prisoners
because that will be a solved issue as far as the scenario is concerned.
K:
I can give you this assurance, if there are negotiations on the Israeli-
Syrian disengagement, I can't work out the tactics now because I don't
know what their proposition is --
D:
Yeah.
K:
It will be clearly demonstrated that your essential conditions for
prisoners were fulfilled.
D:
Yeah, yeah.
K:
Now, if I go out, we have to modify the scenario in terms of the fact
that I'm out there rather than here. I mean, I can't insist -- you know,
we have to work out how to stage the fact that the negotiations will not
start until [visit] starts.
D:
Yeah.
K:
But let's not spend time on that
Mr. Ambassador, because
assure you that is not the issue.
D:
Yeah.
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