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B: You can get the Egyptians away from the Syrians, but I'm sure
how far you can get them from the Saudis, which is why I worry
about Jerusalem.
K: On Jerusalem something has to happen. Jerusalem, on Jerusalem
the Saudis will not give up.
B: Exactly right.
K: I hope the next move after Syria can be a major settlement with Egypt.
B: Well if Sadat will go. It depends a little bit how far he can go and still
say he is keeping the solid front that he always talks about.
K: As long
B: He probably knows better than we do.
K: As long as we don't call it peace I think it can go quite a distance.
B: Yea. Well that gets theological with the Israelis.
K: That's right. But I think the Israelis are so. if the Israelis had any
sense they would offer the 67 porters to Egypt. And get them out of the
war, because for that they could get anything.
B: I'm sure that is right. That is what you said to us the other day and
on reflection I am convinced of it. It's the government that is not
capable of thinking for itself though it is much the same proposition
that applies there that you applied to the S-Soviets in the context of SALT.
K: Yea.
B: You have to give them the menu because it is just an act against nature
for them to design it.
K: But if they are not willing to give up all the territory, then maybe they
should settle for not getting all the peas.
B: Well. They will do much better the other way around and their own
does know that but, but.
K: They would do a lot better the other way around because whether they
get those 10 or 15 miles. . makes no difference in history.
B: None.
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