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D: Well, I think they still think that they can best advance detente under you then
under anyone else. I don't mean it critically, I mean I think that you are trying
to get the best things for America out of detente. That is obvious, but I think that
they would see new mobility to advance than anybody else. Iknow, and they realize
that they instructions you came with on SALT were not sufficient. They know, I
presume they even surmized that if it were up to you individually you would gone
further.
K: No, not much. A little.
D: More than I would say on material things.
K: I think we're not pursuing an insane course which will lead.
D: to confrontation in the front.
K: No, that eventually too, but at first it will lead to Soviet military superiority
because we're not going to increase our budget enough to - but that's a different
problem, we can discuss it some other time. OK.
D: Dayan flew to New York and I'm joining him this evening and he will be coming back
for meet the press. I think their meeting was good, the meeting today. It put him
into a better frame of mind. And he is now afraid that by Monday it will not all be
toppled down while the Secretary is going to be in Acapulco. I said, I think that the
Secretary will see to it before he leaves that he closes all the avenues so that nobody
will run away with the show.
K: No question.
D: And he explained to me what you told him that we have to give the credit to
Schlesinger that you don't want to.
K: That's why I maneuver in such a way.
D: Yes, understand. When you come back and we will have one of those personal
talks, I will tell you some of the things that are happening town. I don't want you
ever to misunderstand me, Mr. Secretary. I'm not saying it to you in order to play
into the Departmental game. I don't play those games. Not with you any how, but I
think you ought to know what is goi ng around town and his talks with Congressman and
his talks with professors. I'm not saying he S talking against you, but he's building
it on constituency. He's building a constituency which is based on the
line then
the one you take. He does not speak against you except on specific issues. He's
speaking about the need for stronger American and for a less compromising America.
He has attraction to these circles because he is intellectual, he's the only one in
that Administration that
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