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TELECON John Dunlap/Secretary Kissinger April 24, 1974 12:17 PM K: How are you ? D: Fine. K: I just wanted to check with you what your reflections D: Yes. I gather you're leaving town, anyway. K: On Sunday, yes. D: I had wanted to talk with George about it and he's been away, as you know, I must say it is a very challenging situation. K: As long as you're willing -- if you're moving in that direction I can wait till I get back. D: When are you going to be back - a week? Kix About 10 days or two weeks. D: That's too damn long, isn't it. Well, why don't I do this, I wanted to have a good heart to heart talk with George about it and he's coming back Monday, as you know, Sunday, no Monday morning. And I thought I would talk with him and then be back in tough with you. K: If you can reach me on the trip, then we could start the D: I will be back to you by Wednesday -- I need one chat with George. That's really what I need. K: Do I correctly understand that you're leaning in that direction. D: Well, I'm willing to say to you I certainly -- it represents a major change world in my work, as you know. Because it's not the area of my -- I mentioned this to you the other day. K: Look, I have to learn it and I don't know anything about ecnomics and I really think that in all these top policy jobs, it's really, if you know how to get the experts into evaluation, then

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