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his position and the position of the delgation as negotiators has been made
impossible because of that fact that there was two levels negotiations and if
they're not kept informed by you and by State, I pointed out, for instance, that
you were not Secretary of State at the time.
K: Yes, but I did do the negotiating.
T: Well, he said that he understood that you did and I tried to pin him down and
to from whom he understood it.
K: No, but that's correct, I did do the negotiating. There was nothing secret
about this.
T: Well, I got that impression too because later I had lunch yesterday with
and he said when he came on board in July of 1973 that it was well known
and he knew all about it.
We
K:
xx considered this a great success.
T: Yes. Well, I just thought you ought to know that lxix this came up and that
the import of Nitzy's xxxxxxx testimony is that there is double of a negotiation
going on and this has made it impossible for the xtesty delegation XX to work toward
any objective, satisfactory objective XXX in SALT II. The other
thing
he
mentioned is the
K: Now on SALT II there was no double level of negotiation going on and that's
one reason why didn't have a successful outcome.
T: He also cited, well he said that in 1978xx 1972 that he and Smith had been told
to drop the ABM thing and they for 48 more hours and during that time the
Russians accepted it. I don't know if that's true either. He also mentioned
Article 12 and
K: What is article 12?
T:
Axotkex Article 12 is the instruction to the delegation not to -- with regard to
the withdraw position in SO far as our forces in Europe are concerned and that
they the delegation according to him have been instructed not to degotat negotiate
in this area. I went ahead and asked him a further question. I asked him if
the reason for that clearance on negotiating in the area was not the fact with
a negotiated in it that we might gxx get into very serious trouble with our allies
X unless there was complete coordination with
K: Exactly.
T: He kind of agreed but said
late with Brussels 30 times and SO forth.
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