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TELCON Amb. Ramsbotham/ Sec. Kissinger July 23, 1974, 3:23 p.m. R: Henry, I have received a telegram which I forgot about this morning. Calaghan spoke to Kiprious and was told then that the Greeks could not come to the meeting. He tried to put a lot of p ressure on him -- before the coup or anything else. He said he intended to be in a meeting for 3:00. Turkey would be there, the UN and US representatives and the world press would be present. If the Greeks did not arrive the world would draw its own conclusion. It was all meant to put on pressure. K: What is the hurry now? Larry has just talked in the last 10 minutes to Alexander and apparently he told him you were having a meeting. Discussed when the conference might take place and the Turks might become difficult without a conference. I did not have the impression that the Turks were dying to get to a conference. R: Nor did I. K: First of all I hope you will not act without talking to us. We did not make a move without talking to you. Even though we grant you the brains and us the muscle. It would still be nice. Secondly, I don't see what the compulsion is to have this meeting. R: I suppose unless you can get the people around the table soon the Island situation might change. I don't know their thinking. I will get in touch. What I read to you was this morning work and that was just pressure. K: Make clear to your people--on that morning -- don't bother to protest that morning thing just make clear to them in general. Obviously, all parties have to be there before we can do anything. Whatevery happens in Greece should be given 48 hours to settle down. As far as I can tell they have no PM now. Third, we will be happy to try to handle it. the Turks with you. I don't have the impression that xxxix Ecevit will die of a heart attack if there is no conference. R: I agree. Certainly we are not going to take any decisions without consulting. K: If the junta were still there, I would think it desirable to have a rapid conference. In its absence I don't see the advantage of Thursday or Friday. DECLASSIFIED E.O. 13526, Section 3.5 NLN09-64/14027 Per Hr. 9/29/2014 By RJ WIH NARA, Date 11/9/2016

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