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TELCON Colby/ Sec. Kissinger Aug 2, 1974, 1:00 p. m. C: I hope we can talk about something other than leaks sometime. K: I was outraged about the story in the NY Times. C: Binder has been working on this. the K: I have been raising hell all over the Department. Except for/one quote they swear that it did not come from here. C: It is impossible to follow the things down. If we raise a little hell K: I think we should all face the fact that this govt is in bad shape and if we all C: And if we can keep the boys from fighting below it is all right. K: You know my views on this subject and they are not as they are reported. I don't want the Department to play stupid politics. I talked to Dick Walters and he can give you my view. C: He did. K: That is my view. C: Fine. We will stick. K: Bill, if you ever give me a name--that is asking too much--but if you can every identify the office I will fire the Direc tor. C: It is a long history over many years, and there are frictions that exist down there and we will have to get over them and I think we will. K: Good. C: If you have made noises down the line there K: I have been raising hell all morning. C: I did not mention this one but I did mention it at the USIB this morning that we in the intelligence business have to tighten up or we will lose our confidence in the past--that we can keep our mouths shut. K: You can be sure, Bill, that I do not deal with you through leaks. C: Thanks. DECLASSIFIED K: END E.O. 13526, Section 3.5 NLN09-64/14038 Per Hr. 9/29/2014 By RS MIH NARA, Date 11/10/2016

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