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Mr. Maw/Secretary Kissinger
August 6, 1974
4:00 PM
K: I understand the Committee has voted on this thing.
M: And they have written a report.
K: But apparently what they are saying is that if they had known then what
they know now they would still have noted to confirm me. But that isn't good
XXXXX enough. That says he didn't need to perjure himself.
M: Where did you get this from? I haven't seen the text.
K: I haven't either, but that is what Pat Holt and a number of others said to the
press.
M: This is in line with what the opening statement was
let me find out what
it is because they are premature in initialing it. I'll hex get a hold of Phil
Trimble who is up there now and find out what the text is.
K: They don't have to say the actions were moral.
M: Yes, but they have to say a little more
but this thing about
when they
caled the hearings they announced that would be the issue. Let me get what
they did say.
K: No, the issue is whether I lied to them.
M: And they are say ing you didn't
K: No, if this is all they said, it is consistent with he didn't need to lie because
we would have confirmed him anyway, right?
M: IX I see. Let me get the text.
K: Right.
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