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Dobrynin/Kissinger
1:10 p. m. 8/23/71
K: Two things. We are getting that bureaucratic problem staai ghtened out
now and no major difficulty. It may be that I will appeal to you to change a
word or two that will have no substantive significance but probablythat is not
necessary.
D: In the text?
K: In the Berlin thing. But let's wait until we get to that. Rush will be
back on Wed.
D: After he will be back.
K: Yes. You can consider it essentially settled.
D: After he is back we will see what it is.
K: We have reduced objections to a point where it's bureaucratic. I hope
your government is better disciplined then ours. Last week a big problem but
substantially settled. WH is not spectacular but persistent. The second
point is that Suslov, when he spoke to Scott, complimented us on the
proposal. Scott is the leakiest member of the Senate we have.
If your people could be made to understand that they shouldn't refer to these
discussions.
D: ? ? ? ? ? did mention any name?
K: Not that many people are permitted to have discussions.
D: It was a slip of the tonguy. I have a letter on it from Moscow. A letter
arrived a half hour ago saying it was discussed. No details. He was a
member
K: Excactly and probably thought it was well-known.
D: He was a member of the Republican Party. The governing party.
K: You'll have to give them a course in American politics.
I
D:
When it was over he said he was sorry. xHexwas told about the
incident
and they will take care for the future.
K: What shall I say? That we don't know what he is talking about?
D: No names mentioned. If they ask me, I will say don't know what talking
about. No names involved. They said themselves it was a slip of the tongue.
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