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TELCON - 8 - Ambassador Dobrynin/Mr. Kissinger 11:15 a. m. , May 12, 1972 D: He asked me, "Well, Mr. Ambassador, you heard Johnson speak with Kennedy all night so what you are talking about? 11 I said, "We went to sleep." And he couldn't believe it really; that an Ambassador didn't even have time with such a man and not to talk with him all the whole night. K: (laughter) D: He couldn't really believe it. So you see even in this case, not everything is believable but on this occasion I agree, not a word. K: No. D: No politics. K: Exactly. We will do it. D: Okay. I'll be in touch with you. K: Good, Anatol.. D: Bye, bye.

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